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Old 12-07-2017, 04:10 PM
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Doesn't sound like chaos. Sounds like a difficult, time consuming task circumstances force you to deal with.
Well, then again, you're not living it right now either.

Pretty easy to judge from afar.

These agencies have so many rules/regulations and hoops to jump through they don't even know the truth any longer. When you run around doing what you are told to do over and over, then someone comes back and says "well that's not right" - that's freakin' chaos when your the pinball in their pinball machine.
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Old 12-07-2017, 04:24 PM
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It is different now, at least in the US. When I turned 18, I had to choose one of three options. I could leave the country, go to college, or take advantage of my Uncle's offer of an all expenses paid tour of beautiful southeast Asia. I had always planned on going to college, so it was an easy choice for me, but not everyone had that choice. Many were forced to go and fight a war in which they did not believe, and were vilified for being there after they returned.

I was active in the civil rights movement, and was subjected to teargas for demonstrating the belief that all men are equal under the law. Fast forward 40 years, and affirmative action dictates that minorities get jobs, contracts, and promotions ahead of me, even if I'm more qualified.

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Old 12-07-2017, 04:25 PM
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I’m trying to word this in a way that will not seem disrespectful to the many amazing people over the age of 50, as I am only 19, and of course still have much to learn (at least compared to many of you with a few more years of life experience under your belt).
However, what I have noticed (being a history/sociology buff) is that older generations GENERALLY have a much different view on what the ideal world is than compared to the then youngest generation at the time.
Let’s just use social trends as an example for now. Back in the 60’s, when many of you were my age, think about how much the social environment had changed. Music broke boundaries, that many of your parents might not have been to keen on (same as jazz even before, considered “evil free thinking noise” by older generations in the early 20th century).Kids dressed and talked in ways many older people could not understand. Protests and sit ins and the fact drugs were being correlated with these kids weren’t exactly what parents and older generations thought was a good thing. This sounds pretty similar to parents of kids these days, 50 so years later.
Vietnam, The Cold War, Watergate, Civil rights and many other things caused America to split it’s opinions. I’m sure many thought the world was “going down from there” as you do now. This caused a polarization of our society that has gone unbroken to this day.
What I’m trying to get at from this, is that while many people who have lived before this point in time may think computers, globalization, political correctness, hip-hop, current fashion, just to name a few, are tearing this world down, in fact, many of my generation (the generation that has learned to live in this ever changing world) believe the world is actually improving due to some of these very things. If you look at the amazing history of advances in technology in the past 150 years, these things are all part of a pattern of social evolution that has taken hold since the industrial revolution; Improvement in infrastructure, communication, civil rights, etc.
And to the point that it seems there is more evil doing in the world when you watch the news then ever before; Technology allows the individual to access information never before imaginable. Social Media and phones allow the world to be in touch and connected like never before. The social injustices you claim to see so many more of today on the news are in fact, just as common as they have always been, maybe less. The fact we see them so often is thanks to technology. We now have the power as individuals to come together and fight these injustices due to our access to information. While it may seem bad we can see so much more of the awful things that have always occurred in our world, we can now fight against things like genocide, corruption, bigotry, natural disasters etc thanks to technology. We can organize charity and volunteer organizations so help the needy as an example. For another example in the US, I can guarantee you that more unarmed black men were shot and killed on our streets in the days before technology and civil justice. Only now we can see and react to the times it happens now, making it seem much more common.
Think about it, right now at least, society has actually improved due to technological advances.
So while the world might not be perfect today, all I can say is I don’t think it was much better back in the day, we just didn’t have the opportunity to know exactly what was going on.
No matter what generation you come from, you will always have doubts about the upcoming and much different generation. It is human nature. But the fact is, the young generations of the future are bright and have many new opportunities to work with. There is an ever increasing amount of kids getting proper educations and recourses to be able to function in this world. Young adults fresh out of college are able to start a career and make more money then ever before. Some people who never could have dreamed about a secondary education 20+ years ago, now can have one thanks to scholarships and programs. And above all, it is this generations time to see what we can do for this world. This is my generations time to shape the world.
Of course, much of this is thanks to generations before us, including many of you who raised the generation including myself I’m talking about. I don’t want to give you the wrong message that I think my generation is the only right generation. We learn from previous generations, many of the positives my generation benefits from are thanks to our parents and generations before. However, I do see positive characteristics in my generation (understating of equality, civil rights, and a sense of hope that we can really make a difference. Again thanks to technology.) This is why it is so important to look at the context of the upbringing of a generation. (The “Sex, drugs, and rock n roll” generation had many parents gone at work or busy after the Second World War, for an example). It is amazing how much your upbringing effects your entire life. This is why I believe we need to thank the generation that raised us.
I want to finish off this passage with something to think about, listen to Bob Dylan’s “The times they are a-changing “, did the times really change? Or is it just small advances in society, that cover overlying themes of universal similarity in our society over the past 100 years? As Bob Dylan and his generation found out, it is much harder to truly change a societies future, than it is to live in your own time.

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Old 12-07-2017, 06:27 PM
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I sometimes ponder the disappearance of the phrase, "I'm sorry." I frequent a local warm water pool which has family time on weekends. I tread water for 90 minutes in one spot, and have kids and their fathers (mothers seem much more subdued in their aquatic interactions with their kids) crowding my "personal space" through lap swimming (it's not a lap pool - there are two others so designated), ball throwing the length of the pool, and just general rough housing. I know that I'm probably coming off as a curmudgeon, but I really enjoy my warm water pool time for therapeutic reasons and resent those who are all over the place and eventually invade my space. When this happens either by parents or kids, the phrase "I'm sorry" is noticeably absent. What happened to respect for elders? This happened last Saturday, and finally when their errant ball flew into my space, I said to the father, "You do realize that you're not the only ones in the pool." This was after the ball had flown out of the pool several times before." Yeh, I know, get out of my pool.....


Yes, you are coming off as a curmudgeon. If you go six days a week you spent 9 hours in one spot daring anyone to violate your space and when they do you can't handle it. Sad.
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Old 12-07-2017, 07:02 PM
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I'm 43, and I feel a lot like the OP. Here are some things that I've done that help with my overall attitude.

1. Stop watching the world/national "news." I haven't watched it in about a year. I figure if something important is happening, I'd get a phone call. Remember, bad news sells. Good news doesn't. The "news" is about money, not about information. There's always an undercurrent of agenda no matter what.

2a. If you are on any sort of social media, simply "unsubscribe" from people whose agenda is either politics or multi-level marketing. Even if you are good friends with these folks, just shoot them a friendly message every once in a while. Also unsubscribe to anyone you feel is simply negative. Heck, consider quitting altogether.

2b. One thing to keep in mind regarding social media - what you are seeing are people's "highlight reels," not reality. I know so many people who project a nice big "happy face" who are truly going through some inner turmoil.

3. Focus on the people around you. Be kind and helpful to those who need it.

4. Be thankful for what you have and for the good folks around you.

Anything else would break the "no religion" rule, so I'll just leave this year.

Also remember, when you complain about the weather, the only thing you are changing is yourself (I have to remind myself of this daily!). Take care and best of luck!
I chose to comment on this post because much of it I subscribe to.
We can become prisoners to influences based completely on power and money but only if we choose to. Like PorkPieGuy, I pay little attention to the barrage of constant overinformation and media hype. No one can be unaffected by it if they allow themselves to subjected to the 24/7 news cycle not to mention the constant barrage of people feeding us with the " get what YOU deserve" mantra.
"It's all about me" is everywhere. That's poisonous and destroys the very fabric of a society where putting yourself last makes you a fool.
I believe that since I can only make choices in my little world, I try hard to make those choices that place my interests second to those whose lives I touch.
I made this decision just a little while back and I have never been happier and more at peace.
Stress, anxiety, external pressures...gone.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:23 PM
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So how would you describe my current situation - fighting with DHHS, banks, lawyers and everyone else to try and get my Dad covered for his nursing home stay at 7800.00 a month while the above named agencies are making mistake after mistake and causing incredible inconveniences while I'm trying to take care of both parents. Is this a wound I inflicted on myself?
Not to add to your misery Fitness but if your dad was active military during wartime the VA provides some LTC benefits as well. Just FYI you might already know this.
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Old 12-07-2017, 08:25 PM
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Not to add to your misery Fitness but if your dad was active military during wartime the VA provides some LTC benefits as well. Just FYI you might already know this.
Yes - thanks. He wasn't military. I'm hoping we are days away from getting Medicaid approval, cuz I've got very little left in my tank

This has been going on for over 3 months - I had 3/4 of the application done before he went in to the home. We were denied on a technicality (Mom and Dad have very little) and had to engage a lawyer. It's been a long haul for someone that worked hard all his life and never took a penny.
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Yes - thanks. He wasn't military. I'm hoping we are days away from getting Medicaid approval, cuz I've got very little left in my tank
Good luck. I empathize with you as my dad spent about 18 months in LTC before his passing, so I know exactly what you are going through.
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Yes, you are coming off as a curmudgeon. If you go six days a week you spent 9 hours in one spot daring anyone to violate your space and when they do you can't handle it. Sad.
Ouch! Actually my time in the water is also social time, and many of us relax and converse during those "nine hours" so I really don't position myself in the pool and "dare anyone to violate my space." What I do have trouble with are those people who see this smallish pool as their own personal playground and throw objects around the pool with little concern for where they land or who they strike. I think that if you're minding your own business in a semi-public space and somebody hits you in the head with a ball or repeatedly swims into you when you're stationary near the edge of the pool, you're minimally entitled to an "I'm sorry"...
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I too unplugged from all news feeds and stories.

I suggest watching CBS Sunday morning (90 minutes of deep dive feel good stories)
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I too unplugged from all news feeds and stories.
Been almost 20 years for me......just got to be too much.
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Im 67 but think and feel like 40 . Im amazed at the rudeness of people now. Or the total unawareness I see, other than the one foot of space they take up . Not all but ALOT . Smartphones changed alot , now they want to add mobile Shopping apps in cars , as if Texting Fatalities arent enough ? I try to stay away from the news if i can It's very depressing , killings everyday , Bad Weather , Floods or tornadoes, hurricanes , Fires . people ( Not even being HALF Polite ) make me shake my head .... seems like a Free for all.. me me me greed greed and more greed ...any ideas when things began going south ? I try to be kind , but people seem in their own little world ???
I'll be 67 in three weeks and I kinda remember my grandfather, born in the 1880s, complaining about the same thing around 1960.
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I'm 67, as well, and the whole temperament of the country has devolved to the point that the motto of the US should be changed from “E pluribus unum” to “Patria avarita odium sui seu erroris”.
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