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Old 06-16-2010, 06:16 PM
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I've owned an Ayers D-08 for several months now, and I'm quite pleased in every way. My intention was simply to test-drive on their "free 21 day test drive" deal, but it was so much bang for the buck that I bought it. It's a ton of guitar for the money. Craftsmanship is equal to US factory guitars I own or have owned. As point of reference, please know I've owned or own Goodall, McIlroy, Thompson, Froggy Bottom, Fox, SCGC, Kronbauer, ... several others. I'm enjoying this guitar as much as any of the others I've owned.









BODY
- Top: Sitka Spruce 3A
-Back & Sides 5A Vietnamese Rosewood

- Neck 1 piece African Mahogany
- Neck joint Dovetail
- Tuners Gotoh 301 (Gold) with Ebony Knobs
- Headstock Overlay 5A Vietnamese Rosewood

- Fretboard Ebony
- Bridge Ebony
- Bridge pin Ebony with Abalone
- Strape button Ebony

- Electronics Optional
- Strings EXL-16

BINDING
- Body Ovangkol 6mm/Maple .5mm/Black .5mm
- Fretboard Ovangkol
- Purfling

Top
- Rosette Ebony 0.5mm/Vn. Rosewood 4mm/Abalone 4mm/Vn. Rosewood 4mm/ Ebony 0.5mm

Finish
- Top, Back, Sides Gloss
- Neck Satin
Extras
- Case Ayers Hardshell Case
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Old 06-17-2010, 06:23 AM
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Actually the Vietnamese luthiers can be rather good! I was in Hanoi last year and visited THan Can workshop and was impressed with the quality of the upper end range. I did a photo essay and a write up here:

http://www.guitarbench.com/2009/11/1...s-terence-tan/

http://www.guitarbench.com/2009/11/1...y-terence-tan/
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Old 06-17-2010, 07:54 AM
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Actually the Vietnamese luthiers can be rather good! I was in Hanoi last year and visited THan Can workshop and was impressed with the quality of the upper end range. I did a photo essay and a write up here:

http://www.guitarbench.com/2009/11/1...s-terence-tan/

http://www.guitarbench.com/2009/11/1...y-terence-tan/
The Vietnamese rosewood looks very nice. Are these instruments sold statesides by anyone?
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Old 06-17-2010, 08:03 AM
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Actually the Vietnamese luthiers can be rather good! I was in Hanoi last year and visited THan Can workshop and was impressed with the quality of the upper end range. I did a photo essay and a write up here:

http://www.guitarbench.com/2009/11/1...s-terence-tan/

http://www.guitarbench.com/2009/11/1...y-terence-tan/
Geez Terence, I thought I'll give them a visit until I notice they're in Hanoi. I am currently in Ho Chi Minh.

Maybe next time
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:52 AM
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Actually the Vietnamese luthiers can be rather good! I was in Hanoi last year and visited THan Can workshop and was impressed with the quality of the upper end range. I did a photo essay and a write up here
Like owners of Ayers and Baden guitars that are being made out of Vietnam I will also concur that there is no shortage of excellent guitars and great workmanship coming out of Vietnam these days. While I have never owned either one of the brand above, I played a number of Baden at my local shops and have always been impressed by their workmanship and tone (and yes the understated aesthetics appeal to me too). My friend in the UK owns an Ayers slope shoulder dread and cannot be happier with it also. So it clearly shows that when dedicated luthiers who are skilled in their craft and go the extra miles to make a good guitar, it really shows no matter where they are made.

I think that the problem with Antonio Tsai's instruments is that the manufacturer simply do not care about what they are making. They are peddling guitar-shaped product to the rest of the world in hopes of making a quick buck. Unscrupulous merchants like this can be found all over the world, and it's more symptomatic of the shady end of the music business than the origin of the guitars itself.

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Old 06-17-2010, 10:54 AM
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I've owned an Ayers D-08 for several months now, and I'm quite pleased in every way. My intention was simply to test-drive on their "free 21 day test drive" deal, but it was so much bang for the buck that I bought it. It's a ton of guitar for the money.
Oh my the Vietnamese Rosewood looks spectacular. I've traded a few emails with the Ayers folks and have been tempted to give the '21 day free trial' a go. I've been thinking about the 06 or 07 series but looks like I may want to consider the 08 series with the Rosewood B&S also.
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Old 06-17-2010, 07:23 PM
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Oh my the Vietnamese Rosewood looks spectacular. I've traded a few emails with the Ayers folks and have been tempted to give the '21 day free trial' a go. I've been thinking about the 06 or 07 series but looks like I may want to consider the 08 series with the Rosewood B&S also.
Inquire about demo models. They can be had at some pretty amazing prices. Mine was a demo from the NAMM show, and I scored it for a ridiculous deal. Fine guitar in every way. Can't much go wrong with the 21-day trial. You don't like it, send it back. You're only out shipping.

I'm considering another actually in a small body size...
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Old 08-22-2010, 09:56 PM
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Hey Guys,
FYI on the test drive thing. We're doing it for free now. We've had so few come back that we just don't worry about the risk of incurring shipping cost or damaged guitars.
Hope it's OK to engage you guys on the forum. We're pretty open about our guitars and what we think about their quality. I would rather be open and honest then try to hide behind a veil as a shill.
-- Mark

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Old 08-23-2010, 05:34 AM
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Having lived overseas in Southeast Asia for a long time now I'd caution anyone who thinks of great deals from a Southeast Asian anything. Of course they do exist and can be found... but the single biggest problem over here in all lines of work is consistency. While they're very good at getting 80% there quickly and cheaply... that last 20% or so is hit or miss based on the day. This goes for food, shirts, DVD's, and particularly musical instruments.

I need to figure out who my friend's retired father is buying. He's amassed 10+ acoustics from a particular luthier. The way people talks it sounds like you can pick your tree to be chopped down and built for you I doubt that's the case, but he's happy with his.

To me they're just not worth the risk unless you can play one in person. And if you're **** sure about it... I mean that's a lot of shipping to get it back and have warranty work done on it should a need arise. Suddenly your 1200 dollar dream can be a nightmare...
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:29 AM
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Buy American whenever possible.
That's what I do........and Canadian Eh?
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Old 10-19-2010, 09:48 AM
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Hey Guys,
FYI on the test drive thing. We're doing it for free now. We've had so few come back that we just don't worry about the risk of incurring shipping cost or damaged guitars.
Hope it's OK to engage you guys on the forum. We're pretty open about our guitars and what we think about their quality. I would rather be open and honest then try to hide behind a veil as a shill.
-- Mark
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Wow!
How cool is this?

As a Vet, I'd love to get a Vietnamese guitar and support their economy -mostly as an amends (we trashed the place while I was there)!

I'm definitely interested and have bookmarked the Ayers site (and the Than Can article too).

I sure don't see any problem posting here, Mark. Others do as well. I think talking price is out, but that holds at some other guitar sites on the web too. You could certainly link off site in your signature line.

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Old 10-19-2010, 11:53 AM
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+1 on Ayers and Badens...they are made in the same factory and hold good workmanship and decent tone for the money. full solid woods, wood bindings, thin braces, clear interior workmanship. I used to own a Timothy Guitar, which is basically a singapore dealer's house brand OEM guitar from Ayers. having played more than a couple badens and ayers i would say they definitely are worth considering.

there have been alot of decent quality guitars coming out of Asia these days..think Eastman, Blueridge or perhaps the Japanese Takamines and Alvarezes that have been around for a while. Personally, the Badens/Ayers would be my choice over these.

no doubt the American guitars are wonderful instruments! but i wouldn't dismiss these Asian makes just because they are Asian.
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:16 PM
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I have been eyeballing some of the Philipines built guitars with similar curiosity for some months, at the prices they are sold at it's hard to imagine that they could even look as good as they do.

I had an Ayers DSCM, one of the first brought into the uk, the review on Harmony central is mine. It wasn't a bad guitar at all, but one of the braces broke and fell out about 2 years into ownership, I can't blame the build though, because that was the guitar I first started using to learn percussive techniques.
I whomped the daylights out of that poor thing, and it sounded great!

Tried a Baden, the strange (cool) looking offset cutaway model, and that was nice, but too much money, I could get an Irish handmade Jumbo (cough) for the same money that would make it feel and sound inferior.
Ayers though, for the price in the UK is some of the best value around.
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Old 10-19-2010, 04:59 PM
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Wow!
How cool is this?

As a Vet, I'd love to get a Vietnamese guitar and support their economy -mostly as an amends (we trashed the place while I was there)!

I'm definitely interested and have bookmarked the Ayers site (and the Than Can article too).

I sure don't see any problem posting here, Mark. Others do as well. I think talking price is out, but that holds at some other guitar sites on the web too. You could certainly link off site in your signature line.
Thanks for feedback on posting. I'll be around to support you guys and any questions you may have.

-- mark
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Old 10-19-2010, 05:37 PM
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... I'll be around to support you guys and any questions you may have.

-- mark
Cool.
I'll be lookin' fwd.

Y'know, now that I've got an itch I didn't know I had before...
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