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Old 11-03-2009, 09:17 AM
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I have to confess that I'm a little bit disappointed with my Taylor 810. It's a 2000 model.

First, I played my friends DN3 (2008 model) which is by far less expensive, and it sounded louder and was more comfortable to play.

Second, my 810 is developing some kind of air bubbles inside the finish ( in the rosewood) which look awful !!!

What I have in mind is to sell my 810 for $1000 (because of the horrible bubbles) and buy another used Taylor (GA4, DN4) or maybe a used Larrivee.. a newer model .. maybe experiment with other guitar shapes.

Do you think it would be a good move, to sell a more expensive old model to get a less expensive newer one (with no air bubbles)?

Does newer Taylors are suppose to sound louder than the older ones?

Thanks,

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Old 11-03-2009, 09:18 AM
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Are you the original owner of the 2000 810? If so, I'd contact Taylor about the finish problems before doing anything else.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:23 AM
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woah i don't mind taking it off u for that price man..
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:50 AM
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my 810 is developing some kind of air bubbles inside the finish ( in the rosewood) which look awful !!!
Do you have any photos of the air bubbles inside the finish?
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:59 AM
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I don't know about louder, but Taylor did revoice their dreadnoughts a few years ago, and they have a good bit more bass, and a fuller sound than they used to. I have really enjoyed 90% of the Taylor dreads that I have played that have been models around 2006 and higher. I don't which year the revoicing took place.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:22 AM
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Taylor revoiced their Dreads sometime in 2003.

If you are the original owner, and nothing detromental was done to cause the bubble effect, Taylor will resolve your Finish issue.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:54 PM
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Im not the original owner

I will upload some pictures to myspace later today if someone wants to see it.

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:10 PM
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I don't know about louder, but Taylor did revoice their dreadnoughts a few years ago, and they have a good bit more bass, and a fuller sound than they used to. I have really enjoyed 90% of the Taylor dreads that I have played that have been models around 2006 and higher. I don't which year the revoicing took place.
+1 on the newer Taylor voicing, especially the dreadnoughts! I haven't picked up and played a newer Taylor dread that hasn't pleased me. They've now got the bass oomph without being muddy but retain a nice midrange and treble clarity--a pleasant alternative to the Martin dread tone.

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:33 PM
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I have to confess that I'm a little bit disappointed with my Taylor 810. It's a 2000 model.

First, I played my friends DN3 (2008 model) which is by far less expensive, and it sounded louder and was more comfortable to play.

Second, my 810 is developing some kind of air bubbles inside the finish ( in the rosewood) which look awful !!!

What I have in mind is to sell my 810 for $1000 (because of the horrible bubbles) and buy another used Taylor (GA4, DN4) or maybe a used Larrivee.. a newer model .. maybe experiment with other guitar shapes.

Do you think it would be a good move, to sell a more expensive old model to get a less expensive newer one (with no air bubbles)?

Does newer Taylors are suppose to sound louder than the older ones?

Thanks,

Yamil
Hi Yamil,

Do your finish air bubbles have whitish dots or streaks under them? I'm wondering if any portion of your guitar may have gotten partially immersed in water for a short period of time in the past? I've had that occur to my c. 1985 Takamine SJ-15E ("Ry Cooder" model) that got wet during Cyclone Val in Samoa back in 1991. It wasn't long before some whitish-looking streaks appeared beneath the finish along a portion of the back-and-sides interface that had experienced 1/2" of water immersion with the guitar standing upright in its case. The guitar's finish marring was a result of water getting through the finish and into the wood and then drying-up, resulting in fine finish bubbling and white streaks in the immersion area. The hardshell case seam that had gotten soaked did come apart but the guitar was fine except for the finish marring which remained.

If your bubbles occurred in the finish with normal care and usage, probably Taylor would fix the finish under warranty.

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Old 11-03-2009, 03:00 PM
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Before I would dump an 810 for air bubbles I would try and keep it for a travel and beach guitar. There is a great 810 custom being advertised in the classified section for a low price.
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Some pics !
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http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=27691887
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=27691896
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Old 11-04-2009, 03:59 PM
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Wow, that's amazing - and I don't mean that in a nice way. Have you called Taylor about this? I wonder if warranty will cover this.

Hopefully someone with knowledge will chime in as to how something like this happens.
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Insane!!!! Looks like moisture got between the finish and the wood somehow from the pictures.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:46 PM
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it's weird.. my local dealer doesn't bring in many dreads at all..

for the last year perhaps, it's always been the GA, GS shaped guitars.. no market for the dreads here I suppose..

Maybe it doesn't help that martin is set up a few doors down.. heh
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:03 PM
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Im not the original owner. No Taylor warranty for my guitar
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