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hotroad 11-21-2017 12:06 PM

Smallest mixer
 
I am in need of a very small mixer with two channels. I don't need eq or effects but I do need volume, eq is fine. Just two in and one out via xlr or 1/4". Got ideas??

rob2966 11-21-2017 12:14 PM

Something like this?

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/402VLZ4

- 2 mic + 1 stereo line input (called 4 channels)
- Phantom power
- Mic pre's

Only $100, probably can get even cheaper with the "B" brand :).

Later
Rob

emmsone 11-21-2017 12:17 PM

The smallest mixers I know are the Rolls mini mixers.

However Mackie also do some pretty awesome small mixers, something like the ProDX 4 might be exactly what you are looking for

David

midwinter 11-21-2017 12:26 PM

Yamaha makes tiny ones.

rockabilly69 11-21-2017 12:37 PM

They aren't really that small, but the Dtar Solstice is a great 2 channel mixer with proper phantom power, inserts on each channel, a master FX loop, tuner out and the ability to use XLR and 1/4" inputs on both channels. I personally think they sound very good with ample gain on the preamps. The only downside is you have to find one used. I just looked for you, and this is all I found (it's a little on the high side price-wise)...

https://reverb.com/item/6775161-dtar...-vintage-white

fotofantom 11-21-2017 12:45 PM

This one:
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MX400

I have one. It works fine. No frills, no noise, no degradation of tone. Comes with power supply.

Cuki79 11-21-2017 01:11 PM

http://www.rolls.com/images/productImg/MX310_Large.jpg

http://www.rolls.com/images/productImg/MX34c_Large.jpg

Not sure if it works... but I think it should. If it is not small enough and you don't need volume: A passive transformer based Stereo to M/S decoder would work.

Cuki

Cuki79 11-21-2017 01:20 PM

Here is an example of Stereo MS matrix.

One output sum the signals, the other substract them. You can use the "adding" output.

http://www.radialeng.com/images/decoder/decoder-top.png

http://www.radialeng.com/images/deco...der-panels.jpg

Page 8-9 of the user guide explains how to use it as a mixer.

Example of passive version
http://www.peterengh.com/images/sonic-orbit.jpg

Nice DIY projects (see Schematics with Jensen transformers)
like mic combiners, or stereo M-S matrix, stereo to mono combiner...) If you do it yourself you can use Combo jacks (XLR-TS)... But you have to be sure of the type of inputs (mic, line level...).

Here a TRS line-level example:
http://nfaudio.proboards.com/thread/...-passive-mixer

Tico 11-21-2017 02:08 PM

I love my 2-channel Azden FMX-22 field mixer.
You wanted the smallest mixer?
This is probably the smallest: I hang it off my belt loops when busking.
Dimensions L x W x H: 5.7 x 4.7 x 2.1" (145 x 120 x 53.5 mm)

Uses 4 AA batteries.
+48v phantom power for condenser mics.
Strong metal case
Mic sensitivity input level switches
Each channel has a switchable limiter
Left/Center/Right channel-assign switches
LED level indicators
Headphone jack
AC power adaptor
Made in Japan
$299

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...eld_Mixer.html

hotroad 11-21-2017 02:43 PM

These are some great ideas that I did not know existed. Very nice stuff from Azden. Love the cheaper gear too. And the wireless has its benefits for sure.

Cuki79 11-21-2017 03:11 PM

Looks great,

Thank you for giving us this positive feedback on this product!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tico (Post 5543970)
I love my 2-channel Azden FMX-22 field mixer.
You wanted the smallest mixer?
This is probably the smallest: I hang it off my belt loops when busking.
Dimensions L x W x H: 5.7 x 4.7 x 2.1" (145 x 120 x 53.5 mm)

Uses 4 AA batteries.
+48v phantom power for condenser mics.
Strong metal case
Mic sensitivity input level switches
Each channel has a switchable limiter
Left/Center/Right channel-assign switches
LED level indicators
Headphone jack
AC power adaptor
Made in Japan
$299

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...eld_Mixer.html


firelakekid2 11-21-2017 09:39 PM

Try an Allan and Heath 6fx. I got one of these recently. Works great.

Allen & Heath ZED-6FX Mixer with Effects

hotroad 11-21-2017 09:59 PM

I went for the Pro DX-4. Has a lot of useful features in a small package with the capability to do the mixing at the mic stand with only my phone. How cool is that. We will see. And thanks very much for the input here.

Cuki79 11-22-2017 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotroad (Post 5544341)
I went for the Pro DX-4. Has a lot of useful features in a small package with the capability to do the mixing at the mic stand with only my phone. How cool is that. We will see. And thanks very much for the input here.

Did you check the gain? Mackie pro-Dx4 has fixed 0 dB gain on jacks and only +25 dB on mics.

https://img.audiofanzine.com/image.p...hoto_id=307776

You said you wanted a mixer with volume pots, so I assumed you needed 0 gain and would only decrease volumes.

For example a cheap Mackie Mix 8 has +30dB on line (TS jack) and +50dB gain on mic (XLR).

TubeG 11-22-2017 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tico (Post 5543970)
I love my 2-channel Azden FMX-22 field mixer.
You wanted the smallest mixer?
This is probably the smallest: I hang it off my belt loops when busking.
Dimensions L x W x H: 5.7 x 4.7 x 2.1" (145 x 120 x 53.5 mm)

Uses 4 AA batteries.
+48v phantom power for condenser mics.
Strong metal case
Mic sensitivity input level switches
Each channel has a switchable limiter
Left/Center/Right channel-assign switches
LED level indicators
Headphone jack
AC power adaptor
Made in Japan
$299

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...eld_Mixer.html

Very compact mixer. on the expensive side. thanks.


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