Archtop for Blues
Say you wanted to use your archtop to play blues. Mainly, you will accompany vocals and play some self orchestrated solos. You may get some help from a bass or harmonica for some tunes. Your amplification should cover a room holding 50 - 100 people.
I am starting with a Guild A-150 Savoy. Guild stocks it with DeArmond 1000 pickup and D'Addarrio chrome flat wound strings. The only amp that I currently own is a Fender 75 watt Rumbler. I purchased it for bass playing in small rooms and no drummer. It works well for strumming jazz chords, also. I know that I need some more easily bendable strings, a stronger presence of the trebles, and a little lower action, to suite my playing style and choice of songs. My experiment begins. I got some gift cards for Christmas. How would you do it (amp, pickup, strings, etc.)? Using your guitar (or mine). Or, would you do it? If you say no, why not? - Thanks |
Your super clean sounding bass amp is the lamest possible choice for blues. If you're playing blues, you need a tube amp. Something about 30 watts would be ideal for the size of venue you're playing (or even smaller if you're miking it) Change string gauges and the setup on your Guild to achieve the playability you want, and you're set. Good luck!
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Assuming you want what most view as a mainstream blues sound, a small Fender tube amp. You can also try something like this in front of your current amp: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Actually works pretty well for getting a Fender tube sound out of a clean rig and if you don't like it, you can send it back. As for me, I like a clean archtop sound for blues. Scooped out mids and as rich and acoustic as the guitar and amp will produce. |
If it were me, I'd go raw: small-bodied archtop (16" or less), no pickup/amp/mic - and if you're shoutin' the blues and can't be heard in a 50-100 seat room without amplification you just ain't doin' it right... :cool:
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Sure, have fun with it. If it were me, I'd use round wound nickel strings. Your bass amp will work, but a small low watt tube amp w/reverb (or a reverb pedal to go with it) will sound much better. |
Well, I don't really think you need anything...
Many extremely famous blues guys have used up to 13s at some point, and in terms of living old schoolers, like say Buddy Guy, you'll probably find 11s on a strat scale length. High action helps with "real" blues, as opposed to blues rock playing. Thinks like hooking a finger under and "snapping" strings (your bass background will help!), and even raking across muted strings will come of better (clearer and louder on the rake) with a higher action. As to your super clean amp being lame... Nah... You think a travelling blues guy would care if he showed up at a club and all they had was one of those crystal clean Silverface Twins? Those were basically PAs... Plug in and go! You're set. I've been spending a lot of time on an Epi 175 recently. Here's some pretty clean blues on a hollow for ya ;) |
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Furthermore, if you go that route, you're stuck with one sound - the sound of your voice shouting as loud as you can, accompanied by your guitar being bashed on as hard as you can. That sound can be as fatiguing for the listeners as it is for the guy who's devoting every ounce of energy he has just to be heard. Having sound reinforcement frees the artist to achieve whatever dynamics they choose - you can whisper, or you can back off the mic and scream. You can play subtle lines if you want and the crowd will hear it, or you can back off your volume control and chomp chords. Don't get me wrong - I truly appreciate when I hear a busker 'shouting the blues" and doing it well, or the sound of a guitarist who can make himself heard without amplification. But here's nothing you can do without a PA that you can't do with one. The opposite is certainly not true. Quote:
That said, a good player can make any rig sound good, so if you can't access a good tube amp, then of course, use the bass amp. But a bass amp is obviously the wrong tool for the job, so if you're a serious musician, you should invest in the proper equipment. In this case the proper equipment is a good tube amp. |
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Used Fender Super Champ XDs and Super Champ X2s are plentiful. They are versatile, good sounding little amps, and can be had for around $100-$150.
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You can blues on anything. That said, I think there's probably nothing worse than a floating pickup archtop for playing at any volume. The feedback could easily be an issue playing to 50-100 people.
I'm personally not a fan of solid state, even for clean jazz. Can you mic your amp? Are you going for some dirt in your sound? I would just mic a small tube amp, but if that's too expensive... Can't mic: I'd do a Line 6 Spider or maybe try a Line 6 Pod through the bass amp Can mic: Pignose |
A Twin is nice, but a Deluxe Reverb or Princeton Reverb will also work, and be lighter, easier to drive into light clipping, and can be miced into a PA with a 57 or 58. And nickel roundwounds add to the sound.
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You certainly won't be heard if you're playing string bending blues with single note lines if you're unplugged in a public setting, so if playing unamplified is your bag, chord solos are the only way to actually be heard. |
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I played through a mini-brute as my favorite blues amp, when my only other options were a Marshall combo and Roland JC-120. It fit what I wanted better than anything else I had. I kept it until I found a Boogie that did exactly what I wanted. The bass amp will work until it doesn't. And since this seems to be a new "venture", I wouldn't spend a cent. |
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