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rokdog49 01-10-2017 01:28 PM

New Personal PA from LR Baggs
 
This looks interesting. No pricing yet.
http://www.lrbaggs.com/synapse

martingitdave 01-10-2017 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rokdog49 (Post 5188246)
This looks interesting. No pricing yet.
http://www.lrbaggs.com/synapse

This is exactly the kind of thing I was interested in hearing about from NAAM. I just watched the marketing video and, holy cow, Lloyd Baggs can sell. Take my money. Heck, I don't even need a 2 channel system. He speaks my love language: engineering.

Ruppster 01-10-2017 02:36 PM

500 watts? Wow. Good video, anxious to take it for a spin, hope it's available soon.

slopeshoulder 01-10-2017 02:53 PM

My interest is peaked. I knew I could count on the AGF this morning.

earri 01-10-2017 03:54 PM

Yes, looks quite interesting. Anybody heard of a price yet?

larryjoh814 01-10-2017 05:31 PM

My duo partner checked in with the Baggs company. Weight is 38 lbs, which is a deal breaker for us.
Price was around 2 thousand.
Sounds really good in the videos, though.

Uncle Pauhana 01-10-2017 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by larryjoh814 (Post 5188554)
My duo partner checked in with the Baggs company. Weight is 38 lbs, which is a deal breaker for us.
Price was around 2 thousand.
Sounds really good in the videos, though.

I bet it will sound incredible, but $2000? If that's true, Larry Fishman will name a grandkid after Lloyd Baggs in gratitude. There can't be many other "personal PAs" in that price range. That's almost Bose territory.

Moving on to other gripes, placing the mixer on the back is not exactly convenient for a single performer trying to make adjustments mid-set. Just having the mixer on the speaker at all is a pain, but at least the Fishman has theirs on the front.

All that aside, I'm looking forward to hearing it.

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TNO 01-11-2017 01:16 AM

Looks interesting, shame it's twice the cost of a Schertler Jam.

Andy Howell 01-11-2017 02:18 AM

Looks similar to the AER Cube. Somebody must buy those but many more buy the Compact.


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Cuki79 01-11-2017 02:37 AM

for 50% more you get 360°

http://www.benkcube.de/i/content/produkte/ds8combo.jpg

Will this amp have the same destiny as the late LR Baggs A-ref? (taht also solved the woofer-tweeter alignment problematic)

http://static.keymusic.com/products/...-reference.jpg

Cuki

necrome 01-11-2017 03:32 AM

Also a deal breaker for me at that weight and price... Would love to get one if it was half the weight with battery power

Side Man 01-11-2017 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by necrome (Post 5188971)
Also a deal breaker for me at that weight and price... Would love to get one if it was half the weight with battery power

To quote the late, great Don Zimmer (aka "the gerbil"): "If 'if's' and 'but's' were candy and nuts, we'd all have a hell of a Christmas."

At $2K and 38 lbs, I boldly predict that perhaps dozens will be sold - mostly to people who can easily afford yet don't need to move them, or who employ people who will move 'em for them... ;)

Petty1818 01-11-2017 08:33 AM

I am always interested in these personal PA systems. However, I always have a hard time justifying them. I totally get their appeal but if this is $2000.00, I would much rather put my money into one or two powered speakers and a mixer. Down the road that will come in handy. Having a full sized PA is always ideal, even if you normally only take one speaker to use at a show.

martingitdave 01-11-2017 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Petty1818 (Post 5189130)
I am always interested in these personal PA systems. However, I always have a hard time justifying them. I totally get their appeal but if this is $2000.00, I would much rather put my money into one or two powered speakers and a mixer. Down the road that will come in handy. Having a full sized PA is always ideal, even if you normally only take one speaker to use at a show.



That seems to be a popular opinion. The only counter to that is the benefit of coverage and dispersion from these line systems, or horn system, in this case. For certain long narrow rooms the Bose,JBL, Fishman, etc simply get to the back better without blasting the audience in the front. And, one handle portability is great.

For most square shaped rooms, a speaker on a stand is just as effective.

So, as a solo artist who plays in different venues, there is value in having a single portable system that gives great sound all the way to the back of any room, and acts as a monitor without feedback.

Bose has sold enough L1s over the years to solo artists to prove the concept works really well for them.

Since I don't play for a living, but still require PA gear occasionally for performances, I have a hard time justifying another system, or spending $2-3k for the Bose. Some of the professionals I play with swear by their Bose L1s. I love the way they sound too. I wish Line 6 would release a sub $1,000 stage source with a line array attachment. I'd sell my current gear and buy that. In the meantime, I'm curious about the JBL product that has more power than the L1 compact at the same price. If I thought the JBL mixer would work for me, I'd sell my gear and buy one of those.




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Petty1818 01-11-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by martingitdave (Post 5189193)
That seems to be a popular opinion. The only counter to that is the benefit of coverage and dispersion from these line systems, or horn system, in this case. For certain long narrow rooms the Bose,JBL, Fishman, etc simply get to the back better without blasting the audience in the front. And, one handle portability is great.

For most square shaped rooms, a speaker on a stand is just as effective.

So, as a solo artist who plays in different venues, there is value in having a single portable system that gives great sound all the way to the back of any room, and acts as a monitor without feedback.

Bose has sold enough L1s over the years to solo artists to prove the concept works really well for them.

Since I don't play for a living, but still require PA gear occasionally for performances, I have a hard time justifying another system, or spending $2-3k for the Bose. Some of the professionals I play with swear by their Bose L1s. I love the way they sound too. I wish Line 6 would release a sub $1,000 stage source with a line array attachment. I'd sell my current gear and buy that. In the meantime, I'm curious about the JBL product that has more power than the L1 compact at the same price. If I thought the JBL mixer would work for me, I'd sell my gear and buy one of those.




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Good point. One counter argument then would be to get a speaker like the QSC K10 which has a very wide dispersion. I see your point though, some of those personal PA systems sound fantastic and definitely have an ability to fill a room.


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