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Opinion needed..
Figured I'd post here to since it deals with Taylor guitars.
I'm about to make a purchase. I LOVE the neck feel on the 214CE, but the sound of the Martin MMV. I really want that Martin for tone, but the neck doesn't feel as good as the 214CE. Anybody know of something in between? The Taylor DN series has a 1 3/4 nut width so that out. The 214 is a 1 11/16. Are the neck shapes THAT different from the MArtin MMV to the 214? thanks |
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- Martin and Taylor have distinctive tone qualities; Taylor is brighter; Martin is more "velvety" and certainly excels in the bottom end ... it would be cool to "cross" these two tone pallets and see what comes out ... :) - Taylor has the better feel, mostly due to the neck; as much as I enjoyed the Martin tone, I couldn't get over how much less enjoyable it was to play compared to my Taylor's (and any other Taylor's I've played regardless of model/price). Taylor has a consistently good feel/neck and this is certainly a hallmark of their success IMO Perhaps I've just never played a Martin that was setup to my liking but every time I go to a guitar shop and play several guitars, I leave with the realization that Taylor continues to stand out when you consider all the important aspects of what makes an acoustic guitar endearing ... I still would like to find a Martin one day that has that signature tone but plays like butter and has a nice neck feel but I have yet to find one ... don't get me wrong, I think Martins are good guitars but Taylor's are just better when it comes to a solid feel and smooth playing neck ... Interesting post ... hopefully someone else with more knowledge than I can help us learn of other guitars with necks/feel comparable to Taylor's ... |
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Martin A-Frame: http://www.martinguitar.com/guitars/...s/a_framex.jpg Taylor Standard II with relief rout: http://iheartguitarblog.com/wordpres...5-bracing2.jpg |
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The Taylor uses a 15" fret radius and the Martins a 16". Don't know enough, but I wonder if that makes THAT much of a difference? Maybe for a super seasoned pro - which I'm not. Piano for 30 years, 1 year on the guitar... |
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+1 for the Taylor DN3. You have the big advantage of solid wood, compared to the 200 series. Also, I think there is something about the DN3, where Taylor hit a design sweet spot. From comparing a DN3 to more expensive Martins (up to $800 more), IMO, the DN3 had a more full, kind of Martin like base than the Martins, along with the classic Taylor mid and upper range clarity. The neck is easy to play, and very comfortable. The three DN3's I played were also very consistent sound wise, all equally good.
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If you like the Taylor sound, call Taylor and find out how much a custom DN3 is with a 1 11/16" neck is. It's the same bolt on NT neck as the 210 so it shouldn't be any big deal for them to swap necks for you.
It can't be a huge price difference... JMHO -Jim |
Since it is considerably more expensive, just for information purposes only, you might try a GS5 to see what that body style with a cedar top and mahogany body yields in terms of tone.
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Well, I took everyone's consideration and actually found a used D-16RGT at GC that I fit me perfectly and had the tone I was looking for. What's interesting, is that the tone was by FAR deeper with a bit more crispyness compared to the new MMV and the new D-16....
It sounded and played better than both of those new.. The only draw back was that the finish on the top was faded or somewhat discolored at the bottom. It still had a gloss top. The rep thinks that the previous owner may have tried to refinished it and stopped or something.... Regardless, it's the guitar I want. The sound and feel was perfect for me. I put it on layaway. Wonder how much it woudl be to get it refinshed? |
"Martin and Taylor have distinctive tone qualities; Taylor is brighter; Martin is more "velvety" and certainly excels in the bottom end ... it would be cool to "cross" these two tone pallets and see what comes out ... :)"
I think the 714ce is one of the best sounding guitars taylor makes. I am a big fan of the martin hd28v and I honestly think the 714ce sounds very very similar. Not as loud Im sure due to the GA body of the taylor but the GA body is what gives the cedar/rosewood that refined sound that is similar to the hd28v in my opinion. With the overtones and the note definition, just amazing. I dont think martin has anything on taylor in terms of tone, or design for that matter. They are both equal in my opinion. For people who think martins do not play as well as taylors. I disagree and I suggest playing a d35. The neck on that guitar is almost identical to taylor necks in my opinion. |
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Refinishing from what I understand is pretty expensive at the factory, something in the area of $1000. You may want to see if there are any local luthiers in your area and see what they think of the top. Maybe the previous owner had some sort of sticker on there and it discolored the area or the rest got darker as it aged so it still fresh looking where the sticker was? That's the easiest to fix, just give it time to even out on it's own. Tough to even guess at without a pic though... Good luck with it... -Jim |
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