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HHP 09-25-2017 02:42 PM

I've Seen This Movie Too Many Times
 
Happened to see "The Red Violin" playing on a cable channel and put it on for a while. I just noticed that when he finishes applying the "red" varnish, and hangs it up to dry, he had used the "speed neck" style with no varnish on the back of the neck. Who knew a 17th century builder would be accommodating bluegrass musicians.

jpbat 09-25-2017 03:37 PM

I don't know about bluegrass speed necks, but the "no varnish" violin neck is in the tradition.
Actually, the neck is protected by the first uncoloured coats of varnish (which is natural resins dissolved in alcool or oil bases). The coloured coats are then applied everywhere else, then the neck is sanded to a mat finish, with very smooth transitions at the head and heel.
So the neck itself appears to be let raw, but no.

Jabberwocky 09-25-2017 08:37 PM

Yeah, there's just too much violins on TV...

I'm getting me coat.

nedray 09-25-2017 10:36 PM

I enjoyed the movie. Having that fiddle end up with Vassar Clements would have been the perfect final touch.

Tico 09-25-2017 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabberwocky (Post 5487612)
Yeah, there's just too much violins on TV...

I'm getting me coat.

:lol:

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Tico 09-25-2017 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HHP (Post 5487240)
Happened to see "The Red Violin" playing on a cable channel ...

Ah yes. The Red Violin was a bloody good film! ;)

Mandobart 09-25-2017 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HHP (Post 5487240)
Happened to see "The Red Violin" playing on a cable channel and put it on for a while. I just noticed that when he finishes applying the "red" varnish, and hangs it up to dry, he had used the "speed neck" style with no varnish on the back of the neck. Who knew a 17th century builder would be accommodating bluegrass musicians.

That's pretty much the way all necks have been done on orchestral stringed instruments for a few centuries at least. Its also what I do (or have done while they're being built) on all my "keepers" whether they're used for bluegrass, jazz, folk, rock, etc.

Jabberwocky 09-26-2017 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tico (Post 5487692)
Ah yes. The Red Violin was a bloody good film! ;)

:D

Well, it's got Samuel L. Jackson in it! You know it's gonna be bloody.

HHP 09-26-2017 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabberwocky (Post 5487749)
:D

Well, it's got Samuel L. Jackson in it! You know it's gonna be bloody.

And the only one where he doesn't use the MF word 697 times.

Athens 09-26-2017 06:23 AM

Red Violin
 
I just read the synopsis of the movie on IMDB.

"Eeeeeeeeeeeeeew!" :eek::hmm::sick:

Steve DeRosa 09-26-2017 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jabberwocky (Post 5487612)
Yeah, there's just too much violins on TV...

- and the sax is even worse... :cool:

rmgjsps 09-26-2017 08:34 AM

Really interesting Thread
 
I'm finding this discussion really interesting, though I haven't seen the movie. The reason it interests me is that I just bought a La Patrie Concert, and, while the body has a beautiful gloss finish, the neck has a "matte" finish -- and I love it. My thumb is very firm, yet slides easily along the neck. I find, sometimes, with the more typical glossy finished necks, that my thumb will "catch" on the finish and make transitions between positions just a little jerky. As a grade-schooler many years ago, I had at least six or seven years of violin lessons (my father insisted) and always wondered why the necks seemed to have been unfinished. Now I know. Thanks. Oh, BTW, I was a really lousy violinist -- never had a real connection to the instrument. I could play the notes but not the music.

HHP 09-26-2017 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rmgjsps (Post 5487934)
I'm finding this discussion really interesting, though I haven't seen the movie. The reason it interests me is that I just bought a La Patrie Concert, and, while the body has a beautiful gloss finish, the neck has a "matte" finish -- and I love it. My thumb is very firm, yet slides easily along the neck. I find, sometimes, with the more typical glossy finished necks, that my thumb will "catch" on the finish and make transitions between positions just a little jerky. As a grade-schooler many years ago, I had at least six or seven years of violin lessons (my father insisted) and always wondered why the necks seemed to have been unfinished. Now I know. Thanks. Oh, BTW, I was a really lousy violinist -- never had a real connection to the instrument. I could play the notes but not the music.

More my ignorance of bowed instrument history, over the past few years I come across particularly mandolins that have had the finish stripped off the back of the neck. I could sort of see applying steel wool to cut the gloss but stripping down to the bare wood seems excessive. I've walked away from buying a few just because of this.

My recent experience probably caused me to note the scene in the movie where Biscotti has finished applying the varnish and hangs it from the ceiling to dry. First time I noticed no red varnish on the back of the neck and I immediately thought of these guys stripping the sunburst lacquer finish off their mandolins.

mercy 09-26-2017 09:05 AM

With Samuel L. Jackson in it Ill pass on seeing it.

mercy 09-26-2017 09:06 AM

Ill also pass on sanding the finish off my guitars.


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