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JoelP2600
04-28-2005, 02:06 PM
Has anyone played the Ovation Applause series of guitars.
Specifically, acoustic/electiric 12 strings.

Any opinions or thoughts??
I'm still looking for a fairly easy to play 12 string, just for a backup instrument.

Thanks,
Joel

BR-183Bob
04-28-2005, 03:43 PM
My opinion of any Ovation guitar is that they are pretty lousey acoustic guitars that sound pretty good plugged in. A 12 string Ovation should sound fantastic plugged in. Just watch out for that bowl making the guitar slide off your lap when you are sitting down.

martin82
04-28-2005, 06:58 PM
A friend of mine has one that he bought new back in the 80's. It's pretty junky. Poor tone, cheaply made, not much fun to play.

Comfort Player
04-28-2005, 10:16 PM
I had an Applause. I think it was an AE28 model. Sold it for $100. I dont know why they are named Applause because they dont generate any.

Hard to play, muddy tone, slippery to hold.

franchelB
04-29-2005, 06:37 AM
I had an Applause A/E 12-string from the '80s. It was tough to play, and would feed-back easily when amplified. I played it so much that I wore out the frets! (It had this undescribeable neck material with an aluminum fret board with carved out frets.) After the frets wore out, the guitar was pretty much useless...
I've moved up to a Taylor 355CE...little did I realize I was so deprived of what a 12-string should sound like...

laughingskunk
04-29-2005, 06:58 AM
I have had several Applause 6 strings through the years, and dont think are bad guitars. Mine have stayed in tune well, handled being slung around, taken camping etc. Seem to be well built, though have seen a few cracked tops. Not sure how much more expensive one of the made in Korea Ovations(celebrity series) is than an Applause. Patrick

JoelP2600
04-29-2005, 07:13 AM
Wow.. Most sound pretty hard ton the Applause series of Ovations..
I'll back off those for a bit, unless I get a chance to play a few.

Someone mentioned Seagulls, I believe for good 12 strings, but I can't find them locally anywhere. I'd really like to play before I buy.

I'll keep looking around, I'm thinking of spending around 300 dollars now.
A little more if necessary..

I'm in no hurry.. I don't care if the guitar is beat to pieces, as long as it plays good.

markm2553
04-29-2005, 07:14 AM
I have an Ovation Celebrity 6 string I really like. Sounds pretty good unplugged, and great plugged in. I have never played an Applause that I liked. I see alot of differance between the two models.
Just wear a strap when setting and playing and you won't have any trouble with sliding. The bowl shape really works in your favor when you play standing.

corvairfan
04-29-2005, 08:51 AM
I am a big Ovation fan and don't understand the bashing they take though the bowl rubbing on the belly and the sliding off the leg are legitamite.

With that said, the LX series of USA Ovations sound great plugged and unplugged and they have come out with some sort of body hugging deep contour bowl that may become the standard. Can't find them in any stores I've been in though.

HOWEVER...I have never heard a 12 string Ovation I have liked..even their top of the line. So I would in all honesty avoid an Ovation 12 string no matter your price range.

For a little more than what you are thinking Takamine makes a EG523SC12. Basically a maple jumbo body with tons of abalone, 12 strings, stays in tune, plays great and sounds fantastic plugged or unplugged...my friend has one and I think Takamine makes fantastic sounding 12 strings...not so good 6 strings though.

I actually pitted this 12 string against a top of the line Guild 12 and it absolutly held it's own and had more depth and tone than any Taylor 12 I've played.

Being maple however is going to make it a tad brighter sounding than mahogany you may or may not like that. I can clearly hear the difference but it's fine to my ears.

JohnZ
04-29-2005, 09:52 AM
I am a big Ovation fan and don't understand the bashing they take though the bowl rubbing on the belly and the sliding off the leg are legitamite.

With that said, the LX series of USA Ovations sound great plugged and unplugged and they have come out with some sort of body hugging deep contour bowl that may become the standard. Can't find them in any stores I've been in though.

HOWEVER...I have never heard a 12 string Ovation I have liked..even their top of the line. So I would in all honesty avoid an Ovation 12 string no matter your price range.

For a little more than what you are thinking Takamine makes a EG523SC12. Basically a maple jumbo body with tons of abalone, 12 strings, stays in tune, plays great and sounds fantastic plugged or unplugged...my friend has one and I think Takamine makes fantastic sounding 12 strings...not so good 6 strings though.

I actually pitted this 12 string against a top of the line Guild 12 and it absolutly held it's own and had more depth and tone than any Taylor 12 I've played.

Being maple however is going to make it a tad brighter sounding than mahogany you may or may not like that. I can clearly hear the difference but it's fine to my ears.

Ditto for the most part. Adamas 12 strings sound good but are well out of your price range. Other than that I haven't heard or owned an Ovation 12 string that sounded very good acoustically and that includes my Custom Legend.....the first black one they ever made.

For a new instrument I'd be looking at a Seagull, but you'll get more bang for you buck with a used guitar. I'd look at '70's and early '80's Takamines, Alvarez-Yairi and Yamaha.

Andromeda
04-29-2005, 10:09 AM
For a long while I was a big fan of Ovation guitars. I have owned many different models, even an applause model. After years of owning a Custom Legend that sounded great, a friends prediction came true: I began to yearn for the sound of an all-wood guitar. Even though there are some ovations that sound great, there is a difference with an all-wood guitar.

As far as 12-strings are concerned, look at and play many. You can find some real gems even in some lower end models. The local music store once had an inexpensive Alvarez 12-string dread that had a tone that was just amazing!! None of the similar models sounded that good, but that particular one did!

jeffrey
04-29-2005, 12:56 PM
I've got an Applause that was an xmas present yeaaaars ago, so I've hung on to it.

No idea on the model number. All in all, it's a piece of junk. Doesn't stay in tune at standard pitch (or intonate properly for that matter). It stays in tune okay with heavier strings tuned really low (around C), but that's about it.

franchelB
04-29-2005, 01:25 PM
With all due respect to people's opinions, this has nothing to do with Ovation or Adamas. I don't have a problem with the regular Ovation or Adamas line, in terms of sound, appearance, or playability.
The poster was asking about the quality of an Applause. Personally, I had mine for 13 years years, cracked top, worn-out frets, and all.
I got rid of my Applause simply because it had become unplayable and was beyond repair. To those who think that I'm bashing Ovations for certain reasons, I do wish that they would have had a chance of playing mine before suggesting that I'm not a Ovation "fan"...

JoelP2600
04-29-2005, 02:04 PM
Guys..
I think the Applause series of Ovations are kind of out of the question right now..
I need an easy to play 12 string.. That's really my top priority.

A friend of mine suggested a Yamaha APX-9 12, I've actually played this guitar and it was really nice. And had a fairly thin neck for a twelver.

Any other votes for this one??

jim_n_virginia
04-29-2005, 02:56 PM
Charles Johnson of Mandolin World Headquarters once told me that the best sounding and durable (ie; neck troubke) 12 string guitars in the world are the older model jumbo Guilds and newer jumbo Taylors 12 strings.

And THAT dude KNOWS his acoustic instruments. I have never owned a 12 string but you can bet if I ever do it will be a Guild or Taylor. I trust his judgement.

mjz
04-29-2005, 07:27 PM
I own a 1980 Applause 6 string. It was my only guitar for over 15 years. It was the series with the all aluminum fret board and frets in one. I never really knew how bad it was til I bought my Martin HD28.

Still, I keep it. Never play it, but I have a soft spot in my heart for Applause.

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stratokatsu
04-30-2005, 10:40 AM
The best inexpensive 12 I ever saw was made by Art & Lutherie, the company associated with Godin and Seagull in Canada. It was an acoustic dreadnaught body with extremely simply appointments, but in your hands, it played as easily as a 6 string and sounded really nice. The owner told me it was about a $xxx guitar.

corvairfan
04-30-2005, 11:41 AM
I will still stick with my original thoughts I mentioned about a Takamine. They are great sounding and playing 12 strings that stay in tune.

Maybe it's me but a 12 string seems to be more fussy to me than a 6 string and I wouldn't skimp on a cheaper 12 vs finding a cheaper 6 string..but that's just me.

cotten
04-30-2005, 12:46 PM
Seagull makes the low priced 12-string that I like best, though I think it's above your limit. Perhaps you can find a good used one. Since you can't find one in your area, perhaps there's a dealer outside your area who will give you a day or two to decide if you cover the shipping. In my opinion, it's a pretty safe bet you'll like it.

I haven't played an Applesause 12-string in a good while, and that's no accident. When I go into a guitar shop, my time is both limited and valuable. I gots other fish to fry! :D

cotten

Then again, I've seen a used Taylor 355 at a very attractive price on occasion, and I think it's just about the best bang for the buck in 12er anywhere.

JoelP2600
05-02-2005, 07:08 AM
I got to play a Takamine at a music store night before last, it was the only 12 they had in the place, I really liked it, Can't recall the model number but it was fairly inexpensive, if I can find it used it'll probably be within my price range.

chris nightbird
05-05-2005, 12:23 AM
Seagull 12's are great!
I've never played an Applause 12, but I DO have an Applause 6 that I love! I've wrote just about all my songs on it for the past 7 years, and have never had a problem. It sounds nice and big!
I guess the general consensus is people either love 'em or hate 'em.

Steve-R
05-05-2005, 07:33 AM
Joel, as mentioned elsewhere in this wonderful forum, you might want to check out Washburns before buying. Excellent value for the price. Also, Rogue makes a good sounding guitar that's well built for not much bucks.

For what it's worth, I had an Applause in the 80's. Never could figure out that aluminum neck (the frets were actually stamped out of the neck). It sounded lousy, but it was great for camping trips. Indestructable.

Deadduck
05-05-2005, 08:08 AM
Guys..
I think the Applause series of Ovations are kind of out of the question right now..
I need an easy to play 12 string.. That's really my top priority.

A friend of mine suggested a Yamaha APX-9 12, I've actually played this guitar and it was really nice. And had a fairly thin neck for a twelver.

Any other votes for this one??

I had a friend that had a Yamaha 12-string accoustic. I don't know the model, but it was relatively easy to play, had a good sound, and stayed in tune well. I have an old cheap Yamaha 6 string that is a very good guitar for its price.
Does it have to be an accoustic? If not, a bandmate of mine has a Fender Strat 12-string that he got on closeout for a song. It's just about as easy to play as a regular strat, you can even play leads on it if you like. Has a good sound plugged in. Something you might consider if you're in a band.

SteveS
05-05-2005, 08:58 AM
I've owned a 12-string Seagull and a 12 string Takamine F400. The Seagul was good, but I'd take the Takamine over the Seagull. I owned them at the same time.
This might be a good deal on one -
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33030&item=7318613556&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW