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Stuart
11-12-2004, 06:58 AM
Dolly Parton opened the brand new Theater at the Continental Airlines Arena (New Jersey - it's where the Devils and Nets play) last night. There's a review in today's Daily News. The review speaks of her "Deft banjo and fiddle playing" and about how "She punctuated spot-on mandolin solos like the one that streamed through 'Orange Blossom Special'." OK, I'm willing to believe that Dolly can play.

But here's the funny part. There's a picture of Dolly from last night's show looking rather ridiculous with way too much make up, a spiky polyeurethane hairdo and clearly visible, really, really long fingernails. She's holding an electric guitar, but looking like she has absolutely no idea how to play it. The article also mentions her "3 inch fingernails." So I'd like to know one thing. Exactly how does one enact "Deft banjo and fiddle playing", and "Mandolin solos" with 3 inch fingernails?

So, what's the story, was this a finger-cync job? Or was the reviewer watching the wrong concert? Man, showbiz people are just too wierd for words.

Jake
11-12-2004, 07:35 AM
Always wondered this myself.

Bob Womack
11-12-2004, 07:48 AM
I have no idea how, but she can play a classical guitar with nails. She's actually a reasonable player. I had a friend (a girl) who could do the same with 1" nails.

Bob

deltoid
11-12-2004, 08:41 AM
Maybe he meant to say her "Daft" banjo playing and how she "Mutilated" the madolin solos...??
However, back in the days when she had her TV show I saw her playing her classical guitar with long fingernails on both hands and doing a decent job. I see women here at work fluently pecking on their keyboards with 1 or 2 inch long fingernails...I don't see how they manage to accurately hit a single key.

I definately don't see how a person with long fingernails on their fret hand could reasonalbly play a mandolin. I would have to see it to believe it.

rhudson
11-12-2004, 09:02 AM
Hey, y'all are not giving Dolly enough credit. She is an incredible talent. I didn't see her performance in NJ, nor have I heard her play the fiddle or banjo; however, I don't doubt that she does a good job with however long fingernails. :)

Honestly, Dolly does a decent job on guitar. Her song, "Jolene," featured her fingerstyle guitar playing throughout, just as an example. She is one of the best country songwriters, has an unbelievable voice, bright bubbly personality, and two of the biggest, most beautiful - - - - - - eyes ( ;) ) you have ever seen.

I have seen her play guitar with really long fingernails. I don't know how she does it, but she does. Getting those long fingernails around on a fiddle or mandolin neck - mmm man, I don't know. But since I didn't see the performance, I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. If she put her mind to it, I'm sure she could.

If you haven't guessed by now, I am a big Dolly Parton fan. :D :D :D

franchelB
11-12-2004, 09:41 AM
I've only seen Dolly on TV; and I'm guessing that when she plays her guitar, uses an open tuning. A banjo, I think, is tuned to an open G; where I doubt she would have a problem playing it. A mandolin is a different story...
BUT if I were to see Dolly live, I doubt if I'll be able to watch her guitar/banjo/mandolin abilities in the first place... :D

Stuart
11-12-2004, 10:02 AM
Ok, you check out these photos and you tell me how anyone can play with those nails on her left hand. I don't doubt her talent. But I don't believe anyone (except maybe Neil Young, 'cause he only plays one note when he solos :D ) can play any stringed instrument, let alone a mando solo, with those nails. No way.

http://www.dollyon-line.com/photos/recent.shtml

BTW, I don't know about you, but I don't recognize any of those chords she's playin' either. If she wants to hold a guitar on stage to make people think she's playin' it, no problem. It's been done by many people - Mick Jaggar, Bono, Elvis, etc. But if you were writing an article about the show, why would you mention her mandolin solos and her "Deft" banjo and fiddle playing?

Please forgive me for being a cynical old so and so. I rather like Dolly. I just hate musical phoniness.

DeadHead
11-12-2004, 11:00 AM
Hey Stu, we dont' expect you to be able to fathom Dolly.

You kow she's from the mountains of Tennesee, right?

I find your criticism funny. You're probably sitting there on your couch picking your 1000 dollar or up Taylor picking apart a woman thats made an icon of herself out of her rich mountain music heritage.

(thats the nice way of saying, I'll bet she picks better'n you boy)

Dolly grew up picking and playing mountain music.

I'm sure there's not a thing with strings that she can't play.

You're a city boy aren'tcha Stu.

(please don't take this post too seriously, I'm just trying to have a little fun with ya).
DeadHead

Stuart
11-12-2004, 11:53 AM
Hey Stu, we dont' expect you to be able to fathom Dolly.

You kow she's from the mountains of Tennesee, right?

I find your criticism funny. You're probably sitting there on your couch picking your 1000 dollar or up Taylor picking apart a woman thats made an icon of herself out of her rich mountain music heritage.

(thats the nice way of saying, I'll bet she picks better'n you boy)

Dolly grew up picking and playing mountain music.

I'm sure there's not a thing with strings that she can't play.

You're a city boy aren'tcha Stu.

(please don't take this post too seriously, I'm just trying to have a little fun with ya).
DeadHead

Dad-gummit! I ain't no city slicker. I'm from Sussex County, son. The corn capital of the east coast. And they ain't no fancy-haired, lipstick wearin', duded up, long-nailed hussy can pick a geetar better'n I can. No way, now how. Imo tell you what. ;)

DeadHead
11-12-2004, 12:08 PM
Yer alright, ain'tcha Stu!?

Got a good laugh thanks.

I've always thought Dolly could pick. Her taste is questionable, but I'm still in love with her. Ever since I saw her flaoting down from above on her magic swing at the beginning of her show. . . . I was hooked.

Some of her choices as far as songs to "bluegrass-ize" are also questionable (shine, or whatever that rock tune was she covered a while back) but to each their own.

Have fun! See ya around. ..

DeadHead

Stuart
11-12-2004, 01:11 PM
I hear ya DH. Believe me, I have the utmost respect for Dolly and her pickin' ability. Nor do I have anything against her taste in music or clothes or make up or whatever. But I believe that the prospect of her playing any kind of stringed instrument with those nails, simply defies the laws of physics.

Oh, and by the way . . .
Leavin' Texas, fourth day of July.
Sun so hot, the clouds so low,
The eagles filled the sky. ;)

DeadHead
11-12-2004, 01:25 PM
Yea, I don't have her in regular rotation on my iPod or anything. I do respect where she is coming from musically.

Oh and I hear ya loud and clear on those nails!

I do think she had one of the prettiest voices going in her younger days and that she influenced a lot of today's c women in country and more toward my taste americana. Think Allison Krauss. I always thought there was a quality in Allison's voice very reminiscent of young Dolly.

Regards,
DeadHead

Stuart
11-12-2004, 01:38 PM
Think Allison Krauss. I always thought there was a quality in Allison's voice very reminiscent of young Dolly.

Agreed, come to think of it, their voices are pretty similar. Both have that twangy quality with the quivering tremulo.

min7b5
11-12-2004, 02:33 PM
.... Exactly how does one enact "Deft banjo and fiddle playing", and "Mandolin solos" with 3 inch fingernails?....

Must be retractable nails:D

Charo is another one with monster nails. But Charo is actually a wicked good guitar player. I donít know if Iíve heard Dollyís playing, though I am a fan of her music. If you havenít heard Dollyís The Grass Is Blue CD....

callouses
11-13-2004, 08:01 AM
Id have no problem believing she could do it...she's incredibly talented...and rich.....(married?......hmmmmmmm....)Sharon Ibsen was a very gifted guitarist...played for the Indianapolis symphonic orchestra, dont know if she still does...but I think gifted or not, sometimes for the sake of expedience, the big pro's will have solo's recorded on soundtrack before performing. Maybe thats what got the great reviews

woodyboyd
11-13-2004, 09:43 AM
I've only seen Dolly on TV; and I'm guessing that when she plays her guitar, uses an open tuning. A banjo, I think, is tuned to an open G; where I doubt she would have a problem playing it. A mandolin is a different story...
BUT if I were to see Dolly live, I doubt if I'll be able to watch her guitar/banjo/mandolin abilities in the first place... :D
Your getting warmer....

studio_guru
11-16-2004, 03:57 AM
I agree with everyone who claims y'all aren't giving her enough credit. I actually hate country music and most forms of it except for a little bluegrass. BUT... even though I don't really care for her music, the FACT is that she grew up fingerpickin and she's penned like 700 songs in her career. That's light years more than most other musicians could say for themselves. As far as the nails... maybe she just learned... how do you explain people playing piano or nintendo with their toes or how my blind friend Kevin can play multi-player bond (that boggles me to this day)... people just learn to adapt....

tadmania
11-16-2004, 05:31 AM
I was a bit disappointed in Dolly's new tour (except when she talked or sang) in that it was very posed, staged, scripted, and well... artificial.

I did not stay long enough to see her play mando or fiddle, but the electric guitar she was holding and handling was NOT making the notes I heard through the p.a. system. Canned all the way. She did play the piano a bit while I was there; and sang a version of "The Grass Is Blue" that made the $54 seat I was in worth every penny. Dolly Parton is a transcendant talent, and I am glad she is getting the kind of notoriety she is from the acoustic music community. That feeling, however, was blunted for me by the fact that she wanted to appear to play the guitar as a dramatic device, and stooped to using pre-recorded licks to do it.

BTW when I saw her a Merlefest a few years back, she didn't play, or fake playing, anything. It was a better concert for me than what I saw recently.

Boomer
11-16-2004, 07:31 AM
Dolly's been in the game long enough to have earned the right to do what she wants.

rhudson
11-16-2004, 10:53 AM
Dolly's been in the game long enough to have earned the right to do what she wants.

I think you said it all there. Dolly probably has more talent than all of us experts put together making these astute observations. :)

Stuart
11-16-2004, 12:26 PM
I was a bit disappointed in Dolly's new tour (except when she talked or sang) in that it was very posed, staged, scripted, and well... artificial.

I did not stay long enough to see her play mando or fiddle, but the electric guitar she was holding and handling was NOT making the notes I heard through the p.a. system. Canned all the way. She did play the piano a bit while I was there; and sang a version of "The Grass Is Blue" that made the $54 seat I was in worth every penny. Dolly Parton is a transcendant talent, and I am glad she is getting the kind of notoriety she is from the acoustic music community. That feeling, however, was blunted for me by the fact that she wanted to appear to play the guitar as a dramatic device, and stooped to using pre-recorded licks to do it.

BTW when I saw her a Merlefest a few years back, she didn't play, or fake playing, anything. It was a better concert for me than what I saw recently.

Thanks tad . . . I rest my case. :D

Taylor007
11-16-2004, 12:29 PM
almost two full pages of a dolly paton thread and nobody has mentioned XXX yet?! man you guys are more mature than i thought....:)

Bill Nichols (CaptBill)
11-16-2004, 01:12 PM
almost two full pages of a dolly paton thread and nobody has mentioned XXX yet?! man you guys are more mature than i thought....:)Yes...wasn't it nice.

ME@VT
11-16-2004, 01:46 PM
Dolly's been in the game long enough to have earned the right to do what she wants.

and that includes faking the game?

Taylor007
11-16-2004, 07:46 PM
Yes...wasn't it nice.


Sorry Bill :( , i couldn't resist! :halo:

Bill Nichols (CaptBill)
11-16-2004, 09:03 PM
Sorry Bill :( , i couldn't resist! :halo:no problemo....

taygull
11-17-2004, 05:21 AM
I can't resist...I'm not worried about how she plays the guitar; she has proven she can do that. The move I'd like to see is her tying her shoes!

tadmania
11-19-2004, 04:09 PM
Dolly joked that the reason her waist and feet are so small is that "Things don't grow in the shade!"

Serenity
11-19-2004, 08:33 PM
Dollly is a talented performer, a fine person and she has a great sense of humor about her attributes.

I like all kinds of music and that includes many of her songs.

She is one of the greats of all time.

Chicago Sandy
11-20-2004, 12:44 AM
I remember about thirty years ago seeing her on "The Mike Douglas Show" and watching her sit on the couch and play "Jolene" and "Coat of Many Colors" on an unplugged nylon-string guitar with those hoochie talons of hers. I did a double-take. So, apparently, did Douglas--he mentioned the extraordinary length of her nails and marveled about how she could play. She replied, "I got my own way." Looking closely, I saw she was using mostly one-finger barre chords (kind of like early Joni Mitchell, only fingering from the treble side of the neck instead of over the top with a whole hand like Joni used to), plus some partials (the picked strings being only those not muted by her left-hand nails). On those barres, I could plainly see that her (unusually long) finger spanned the entire fretboard, with the nail hanging off the bass side, without touching any of the strings. Hadda be open tuning. She confirmed as much by laughing, "Heck, I could play with my feet if I had to." Never saw her play fiddle or mando, but I can say (as one who, ahem, has had some experience hanging out at nail salons) it's theoretically possible with squared-off tips and very long and loose double-jointed fingers that can be arched. Me? if my fingertip calluses don't stick out 1/8" from the nails I get uninitentionally muted strings. And very long right hand nails can really go to town on vibrato and speed-picking.