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cheesy_chester
10-02-2011, 09:56 PM
Welh i cant resist d sound of my newly discovered gibson lp custom but its too expensive for me to have it so i am looking for its closer brother whether it is gibson lp standard or lp traditional any suggestions
PS: those who have played all the three plz leave ur expert comments thanx

zabdart
10-03-2011, 07:26 AM
Yeah, Les Paul Customs are really expensive. Les Paul Standards work just as well, and you'll save about $1000. The ebony fretboard, MOP inlay and gold-plated hardware on the Custom just aren't worth the extra money, in my opinion.

bigsnaketex
10-03-2011, 09:37 AM
the "extra" stuff does not justify the price.

If you're a player - get a base one and play your heart out.

sachi
10-03-2011, 10:13 AM
If you really want to save $$, get an Epiphone Les Paul. Some of them are quite good.

cheesy_chester
10-03-2011, 12:38 PM
Welh i read on gibson forum that custom are fully solid wood which add more sustain compare to wot standered r chambered n it also has vox pickups

leeasam
10-03-2011, 02:19 PM
the Les Paul Studio has the same pick ups in it.Also the same thicker feeling neck. Get the Apline White w/Gold and it will have the Ebony fret board also.

unless they changed it very recently they had the 490R and 498T. Which is still what the Gibson site says.

I really like my 2011 LP Studio. Had an 02 Standard and this plays and sounds better.

zabdart
10-03-2011, 03:40 PM
Welh i read on gibson forum that custom are fully solid wood which add more sustain compare to wot standered r chambered n it also has vox pickups
Les Paul Standards are all solid woods, too. That was their point. Gibson has downstreamed the Les Paul line into so many varieties of models that I don't think even Henry J. can keep track of them all. The chambered bodies came about for the same reason that Fender made Telecaster Thinlines -- to lighten the overall weight of the guitar. Your average Fender electric weighs about 7.75 lbs. Your average Les Paul (without the chambers) weighs about 8.5 lbs or more. When you've got that strapped on your shoulder for hours at a time, that extra weight becomes a significant issue. The extra weight does, however, contribute to the legendary sustain of the Les Paul model.

leeasam
10-03-2011, 07:23 PM
my LP Studio is chambered and feels nice compared to a 9 to 10lb LP. I don`t know mine has great sustain. I had a ESP EC1000 deluxe LTD that had more sustain than any other LP style guitar I had. it was one of the lightest too. So why the sustain?? ah! It had TONE PROS locking bridge and tail stop.

I am going to put TONE PROS aluminum tail stop and a locking bridge on my LP Studio soon. with the locking and the Aluminum tail stop it should really RING and sustain.

what I do like about the chambering is that is has a really nice acoustic ring to it unplugged.

zabdart
10-03-2011, 09:09 PM
I'm no guitar builder or luthier. There have been all kinds of theories over the years about which solid bodies yield the best sustain. Any number of factors contribute, including body density (usually confused with body weight), neck joints, pickups used, string mounting and the mass of the bridge saddles. And there are any number of opinions about each of those issues.
The basic idea of a solid body guitar is to increase the sustain of the guitar by optimizing the operation of the pickup by reducing or eliminating the vibrations you get in a chambered body (especially one with a vibrating diaphragm top). By reducing sympathetic vibration, you can turn the volume pots up on your guitar and your amp without fear of feedback. However, once you rout a cavity into a piece of wood, you have turned that piece of wood into an acoustic chamber... so you're going to get some vibration anyway... UNLESS you build your body out of some acoustically inert material like lucite or plexiglass, like the Dan Armstrong see-through model. The trouble with that is the molecular density of the body results in a really heavy guitar (about a pound heavier than your average Les Paul).
All of this is rather moot if you plug in a lot of effects between your guitar and your amp, since you're losing signal with every device you plug in.

skyver
10-04-2011, 12:00 AM
I've owned many Gibson electrics over the years, including a Les Paul Studio, 3 SGs, an ES 335, and 3 ES135s. I've found that higher price doesn't necessarily mean better sound. You pay a lot for binding, pearly inlays, and highly figured tops. The 135 I have now is one of the plainest-looking but best sounding Gibsons I've ever played, and when it was in production it was at the low end of the Gibson price scale.

I played an LP Traditional at a shop about a year ago that was really sweet. If I'd had the money at the time I would have bought it.

Setup and strings make a huge difference. I hear a lot of people saying Gibson quality is bad, but when you try a guitar in a shop, chances are it is not set up properly. When I got this 135 it didn't sound so hot, but since I set it up and put a set of .12s on it it just sings.

Landru
10-04-2011, 12:08 AM
the "extra" stuff does not justify the price.

If you're a player - get a base one and play your heart out.

If you want to "Rock the Free World" right, you get the ebony fretboard someway, somehow. Used, bargain it, wait for it - if you like ebony, which I do. Neil's Les Paul is . . . . . . . . . .