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Old 08-05-2011, 04:11 AM
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Have decided to install a soundhole pickup in my guitar.

Have come down to 4 options:

Fishman Neo-D Passive
Dean Markley Promag
Fender ACP-1
Seymour Duncan Woody


(Cant afford LR BAGGS M1/M1A)

Which one is best? I don't have a preamp, just plugging straight into a PA System. Will it still sound good?

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Old 08-05-2011, 06:26 AM
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Between the 4 you listed I would go with the Fishman Neo-D. Get the humbucking version of the Neo-D. I've used that humbucking version of the Neo-D through a LR Baggs Para DI with fantastic results on the many stages I've played on.

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Old 08-05-2011, 06:28 AM
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Save your coins for the Baggs M1. Its awesome.
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:02 AM
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Save your coins for the Baggs M1. Its awesome.
i agree with the baggs m1 you can buy used and i think there is one on the classified forum now. good luck
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:05 AM
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work out what kind you want

magnetic go for MI

or try a trance amulet for alternative
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Old 08-05-2011, 03:47 PM
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And the fishman would be adequate without a preamp?

If i get the m1, do I need a preamp?

What would be the next best option out of the list?
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Old 08-05-2011, 04:45 PM
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So the Neo is 50, the M1 is 100. You need a pre amp for both. 50 bucks difference. Are you really scratching that much?

Do you need a pre amp? No. But you will appreciate a preamp, a passive pickup performs best with one, any passive. Those can be found for under 100 dollars as well. There was someone selling the Baggs GigPro on the classifieds for 45 dollars. If it's just a quick fix for a poor musician, get the cheapest pickup.

If you're scratching for cash, you get what you can use, and of the ones mentioned, the cheapest is the ideal for someone in that position.
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Old 08-05-2011, 04:59 PM
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If I go ahead with the M1, what preamp is good? Is it worth to go for M1A?

Where would I find these? eBay?

Have found an active pickup on our NZ trading site: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Music-instr...-397491986.htm

Is it worth it?

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Old 08-05-2011, 11:03 PM
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Have found an active pickup on our NZ trading site: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Music-instr...-397491986.htm

Is it worth it?
The pickup on that link is for an electric guitar. Not what you're looking for, although EMG does make an active magnetic for acoustics that some people like (I've never tried it or heard one in person):

http://www.emgpickups.com/products/category/3/3

I use an M1, and I'm very pleased with it. Not the most naturally acoustic sound that's possible, but as close as a mag alone is likely to get, I think. It has a pretty weak signal, so a preamp is a good thing to have. Or you can go for the active version (M1a). Others in this price range worth considering are the Fishman Rare Earth pickups or the Mi-Si duo. Like the M1a these are active.

If these are too expensive for you, from the ones you list, I would consider either the humbucking version of the Fishman Neo-D or the Duncan Woody, but for the Duncan try the XL version with the adjustable pole pieces. Again, a preamp will be helpful.

Also, for going directly into a PA, it's good to have a DI unit to match the impedance between your pickup and the mixer's inputs. It will also let you send a balanced signal to the board, which is good if you're going to be more than 10 or 12 feet away from it. Most preamps will do this for you. A DI unit for impedance matching and balancing your signal is a good idea, even with an active pickup, if you're going directly into a PA.

Louis

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Old 08-06-2011, 05:17 AM
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I got a dean-Markley grand for really cheap.

What amp would go well with this? Under $100 used or new. Looking at Marshall mg15fx. Is it alright to buy non branded items that are around $50? Like a "drive " branded amp.

If I use an amp, do I still need a preamp? Or is that only required when using pa system. ?
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Old 08-06-2011, 10:18 AM
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The Dean Markley will serve, but that Marshall amp is an electric guitar amp. You need either an acoustic guitar amp or an amp designed for keyboards or other insturments that need a flat response over a wide frequency range. You can use an electric guitar amp (it won't do any harm), but it's not going to give you the sound you probably want.

What do you plan to use this for, small gigs or just practice and playing at home? And do you plan to sing as well?

Louis
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Old 08-06-2011, 03:16 PM
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This will be used for some strumming and fingerstyle at home. Also at church while playing with piano.

Is there any acoustic amp under $100 used ? Something that's entry level low end stuff. Will sometimes use PA at church.


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Old 08-06-2011, 04:58 PM
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You might be able to find an Ultrasound AG-30 used for around $100 (they sell new for around $190-$200). That would be my recommendation for an inexpensive, small practice amp. It will also work as a preamp for you and allow you to send either a balanced or an unbalanced signal to your PA. No effects or anything. Just one channel, 30 watts, good sound.

They also make a little 15 watt model, but that may be too limited (no DI out, for example).

http://www.ultrasoundamps.com/Home1.html

Louis
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:17 PM
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http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=396180981

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=396589783

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=397162337

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=397586245

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=397277020

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=397284948


Any of these suitable for acoustic? Can't find any UltraSound amps. Would the ultrasound work fine in a hall? Would a 10Watt be suitable?
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:31 PM
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This thread gets funnier and funnier.
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