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Guitarnoob89
04-19-2010, 06:04 PM
My dad's got an old Alvarez that he's had since he was a kid. I'm just curious if anyone else knows anymore info on it. It's dated 1979 and it has a solid top,but don't know if the back and or side are or not. Here's a picture I snapped of it.

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5971/p01201735a.jpg

skatalite
04-19-2010, 06:09 PM
Does it still have the inside sticker with model number?

Guitarnoob89
04-19-2010, 06:10 PM
Does it still have the inside sticker with model number?

It does, I meant to write it down just forgot to.

barrangatan
04-19-2010, 06:11 PM
Any chance it's a 5014? There are quite a few fans of the old Alvarez guitars here. I for one have been kicking myself for letting go of a late 70's model 5022 (with the label Alvarez scripted across the headstock), and have been searching high and low for a replacement. Would love to hear more about the one you have.

Guitarnoob89
04-19-2010, 06:14 PM
Any chance it's a 5014? There are quite a few fans of the old Alvarez guitars here. I for one have been kicking myself for letting go of a late 70's model 5022 (with the label Alvarez scripted across the headstock), and have been searching high and low for a replacement. Would love to hear more about the one you have.

I wish it was mine. Maybe one day I'll ask to buy it off him. It doesn't have Alvarez across the top just the diamond shape inlay you see in the picture.

blindeman
04-19-2010, 06:20 PM
Looks like it has an adjustable bridge by what appear to be the tell-tale 2 screws on either side of the bridge.

You can email Tom Kruszka at: tom.kruszka@stlguitarservice.com

Tom has worked for Alvarez (St Louis Music) for a looong time and can tell you most anything you want to know about their vintage guitars.

Good luck!

B.

Guitarnoob89
04-19-2010, 06:24 PM
Looks like it has an adjustable bridge by what appear to be the tell-tale 2 screws on either side of the bridge.

You can email Tom Kruszka at: tom.kruszka@stlguitarservice.com

Tom has worked for Alvarez (St Louis Music) for a looong time and can tell you most anything you want to know about their vintage guitars.

Good luck!

B.

It does indeed have an adjustable bridge. Thanks for the email.

I wish I had more time with this guitar. No idea what the tone sounds like,because the strings sound like rubber bands right now.

dmw999
04-22-2010, 05:43 AM
I am looking at a 1972 Alvarez 5022. It has the Alvarez logo in script on the headstock. It has the adjustable bridge with the two screws on the side. I believe it has a spruce top with rosewood back/sides. It is not local and so I cannot see it in person or play it. The guitar looks in great shape.

My question: does anybody know if this has solid top and solid back/sides? Thanks

barrangatan
04-22-2010, 09:36 AM
I am looking at a 1972 Alvarez 5022. It has the Alvarez logo in script on the headstock. It has the adjustable bridge with the two screws on the side. I believe it has a spruce top with rosewood back/sides. It is not local and so I cannot see it in person or play it. The guitar looks in great shape.

My question: does anybody know if this has solid top and solid back/sides? Thanks

Ah... How I envy you. I had one in the past and foolishly sold it and have been regretting since. The one I had was all laminate wood - spruce top with hog back and sides. Constructed very lightly - it was one of the lightest guitar I ever owned - and I always imagined that's what people meant when they described the same about the old Martin guitars being very light. It has a tone that was sweet, mellow and yet dynamic. It certainly beat out some of the solid top guitars I had.

The only information I was able to find on the 5022 was from an allexperts page here:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Guitar-General-649/f/Alvarez-5022-questions.htm

There were at least two different Alvarez 5022's over the years, one was called the GLENBROOKE, or HERRINGBONE PROFESSIONAL, but yours is the other, depending on what year it was made, it is either an Alvarez Mahogany Dreadnought or a Western Dreadnought, made after the mid70's through the 80's. It has all laminated tonewoods, top is white spruce, back and sides are Oboncol Mahogany, white binding, adjustable rosewood bridge, Nato Mahogany neck, with adjustable U channel reinforcement. Rosewood fingerboard, with inlay pearloid dots, chrome tuners and tortoise shell pickguard. There may be slight variations from year to year. In 1980 Mfg retail price was $XXX.

dmw999
04-22-2010, 09:42 PM
Ah... How I envy you. I had one in the past and foolishly sold it and have been regretting since. The one I had was all laminate wood - spruce top with hog back and sides. Constructed very lightly - it was one of the lightest guitar I ever owned - and I always imagined that's what people meant when they described the same about the old Martin guitars being very light. It has a tone that was sweet, mellow and yet dynamic. It certainly beat out some of the solid top guitars I had.

The only information I was able to find on the 5022 was from an allexperts page here:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Guitar-General-649/f/Alvarez-5022-questions.htm

I am going to pass on it. PM me if you want to the guy's contact info. Seems like a reasonable price. Great looking guitar.

Guitarnoob89
05-23-2010, 02:44 PM
Went back home this weekend for my birthday. The guitar is in fact a 5014 any info about them?

Guitarnoob89
05-23-2010, 10:12 PM
bumpity bump

gitnoob
05-23-2010, 10:18 PM
It has a spruce top with mahogany back & sides, all laminates ... called the Alvarez Mahogany Folk

http://www.alvarezgtr.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2384&p=6958

Guitarnoob89
05-23-2010, 10:34 PM
It has a spruce top with mahogany back & sides, all laminates ... called the Alvarez Mahogany Folk

http://www.alvarezgtr.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2384&p=6958

Strange because the grain on the top follows through the sound hole. There's no visible layers.

barrangatan
05-24-2010, 01:00 PM
Hi - there had been a few older threads about the 5014 - check them out here:

http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149825&highlight=Alvarez+5014
http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178694&highlight=Alvarez+5014

The 5014 was one of the lower end Alvarez folk guitar model, similar in construction to the FG110 or FG170 in the Yamaha line up around the same time. The top is most likely laminate by all accounts. Sometimes the laminate layers aren't all that visible or noticeable from the soundhole, but they are laminate nonetheless.

Having said that - the 5014 is a good guitar and was really well constructed with good tone and playability. Enjoy it and let us know what you think.

Fatstrat
05-24-2010, 01:47 PM
I am going to pass on it. PM me if you want to the guy's contact info. Seems like a reasonable price. Great looking guitar.

Too bad you're passing on it. I had one as well and also regret selling it. Don't let the laminate fool you, it's a great guitar.

jensenjeff
05-24-2010, 06:38 PM
I bought a Alvarez 5022 back in 1978 and eventually passed on to my son who is learning to play. I can tell you that the top has changed colors to a dark hue and the sound just keeps getting better. I miss that guitar, but now have one to play when I go to visit him. I did replace it with a Yairi DY 91, which I really love. I think Alvarez did a great job building these guitars back in the 70's and early 80's, but never got the respect that they deserved, Jeff

Guitarnoob89
05-24-2010, 09:09 PM
It is a nice guitar,thought of maybe asking my dad about buying it from him. It was his first guitar he got. I played on it a little bit while i was up there. Seems like it has alot of mid-range,but hard to tell much with strings that are several years old. Very comfortable to play thought,light weight,compact (compared to my takamine dred).

kenneth_leong
07-13-2010, 02:34 AM
Anyone know a good place to purchase Vintage Alvarez Guitars?

joehweathers
04-02-2013, 09:04 AM
Any chance it's a 5014? There are quite a few fans of the old Alvarez guitars here. I for one have been kicking myself for letting go of a late 70's model 5022 (with the label Alvarez scripted across the headstock), and have been searching high and low for a replacement. Would love to hear more about the one you have.

I found a 5066 sitting in a pawn shop collecting dust.. A new set of Martin strings, a little cleaning and man this is nice.. Great action and the only laminate I have seen is where they attached the rosewood finger board to the mahogany neck; the rest is solid spruce top and rosewood..

DanPanther
04-02-2013, 10:48 AM
If it looks like this on the back, it's a5043. Grab it and don't let go, the best sounding guitar I've ever owned.
Dan

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx237/DanPanther/AL5043_zps3795189a.jpg

DanPanther
04-02-2013, 10:49 AM
Anyone know a good place to purchase Vintage Alvarez Guitars?

I've gotten both of mine on eBay, but ask plenty of questions. Around $200.00-$300.00 a piece.
Dan

DanPanther
04-02-2013, 10:55 AM
After revisiting the photo, I see the body is a different shape, so probably NOT 5043.
Dan

joehweathers
04-02-2013, 09:17 PM
If it looks like this on the back, it's a5043. Grab it and don't let go, the best sounding guitar I've ever owned.
Dan

http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx237/DanPanther/AL5043_zps3795189a.jpg

It looks very much like that on the front; the decor around the sound hole is different... the back has a single thin stripe down the center... the label in the sound hole is aged but completely legible... it reads Model 5066 and Made In Japan... I got it for $150.00... and I agree with you, it's got the best tone and projection of any I've ever owned... I'll try to post a pic for you... I'd would welcome opinions...

http://mail.aol.com/37605-111/aol-6/en-us/mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=29416&folder=Saved&partId=7

http://mail.aol.com/37605-111/aol-6/en-us/mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=29416&folder=Saved&partId=5

http://mail.aol.com/37605-111/aol-6/en-us/mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=29416&folder=Saved&partId=6

Hope these locations work... I can't figure out how to post a picture of my guitar...