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CooloutAC
01-09-2010, 01:58 PM
I have them on the top part of the neck from my hand. and on the body where my forearm goes.

Is this bad? is it shortening the lifespan of my guitar?

I read somewhere that virtuoso cleaner is the best thing to get rid of the dark spot on the body? I'm kind of nervous that i might actually hurt the guitar though is it safe to use?

I also read i should wear longsleeves or drape a rag over the body while playing which i'll start doing now.

thanks.

Misty44
01-09-2010, 03:08 PM
First, what is the finish of your guitar, satin or glossy?

If satin, rubbing it with a polish (or your arm) could actually buff it out over time to a glossy spot.

These stains are common and will not shorten the lifespan of the guitar. Many will say it is mojo (a good thing) and will add a touch of grit to your playing. On the body, these can be minimized by putting a cloth down on the lower bout where your arm crosses it, or wearing long sleeves, or incorporating a sleeve sock (a large sock with the bottom cut out worn on your arm).

A polish may or may not get these out...I prefer Virtuoso because it is non-abrasive. First however try some mild soap on a damp cotton cloth and then wipe with another damp cloth.

I wouldn't do anything about the neck, it will rub out over time from playing.

Also, wash your hands before playing and rub down the neck and fretboard after. This will help prolong the life of the strings and remove hand oils and grundge from building up.

Wade Hampton
01-09-2010, 04:23 PM
I agree with the points Misty made.

If you manage to get the stains polished out on the top, you might consider doing what a friend of mine in the same situation did to prevent it from happening again: he put a John Pearse armrest on the guitar

Here's a photo of the Pearse armrests on some of Roman's guitars, from a thread on the Taylor Guitar Forum:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g261/mgreek/Taylors.jpg


I don't have sweat stain problems on my guitars, since I'm Cool Hand Luke (or, maybe, "Cool Forearm Wade,") and don't sweat on them. But I like the armrests for the way they lift the forearm off and allow the top to vibrate to its fullest extent, thus allowing the guitar to achieve its richest possible tone.

Hope this helps.


Wade Hampton Miller

CooloutAC
01-09-2010, 10:43 PM
Thanks for the replies. That john pearse armwrest is something to consider, I'm actually not sure what type of finish my guitar has. I have a martin dx1 when i go to their site it just says hand rubbed finish on the top. If the smudge doesn't ruin the sound or lifespan maybe i'll just leave it alone then.

Wade Hampton
01-09-2010, 11:24 PM
The smudge will not affect the sound or shorten the lifespan of the guitar.

Having your forearm draped across the top when you play DOES affect the tone, because it keeps the top from vibrating as fully as it might. (Try playing an E chord with your forearm on the top, then lift your arm while the chord is still ringing, to hear whether your tone's being inhibited by your arm - on some guitars this won't make a difference, but on most there's an immediate and audible difference in the tone, with a fuller sound once your forearm is off the top.)

But, no, your perspiration will not affect the guitar in any way other than cosmetically.

Hope this helps.


Wade Hampton Miller

CooloutAC
01-10-2010, 02:54 AM
that helped wade thanks.

BoB/335
01-10-2010, 08:27 AM
I've read on some forums that naphtha was safe and effective to use for sweat stains. I don't know that for a fact nor have I ever tried it.
Anyone here ever give naphtha a shot?

Les Tension
01-10-2010, 06:43 PM
Naptha certainly wont hurt anything. As to wheter it removes sweat stains?... not sure.

ScaryLarry
07-24-2012, 06:05 PM
I just purchased a Gibson J-45 Custom and noticed the finish dulled where my arm touches the top front. I don't want to modify the guitar, so I was wondering if anyone has tried the Oasis sleeve.

http://oasishumidifiers.com/sleeves.html

Larry

Wade Hampton
07-24-2012, 06:31 PM
I haven't tried it but it seems like a reasonably priced item that should work just fine.


whm

ScaryLarry
07-24-2012, 07:24 PM
Yes, thats what I thought. I am going to purchase one and see how it works.

ljguitar
07-24-2012, 07:28 PM
Yes, thats what I thought. I am going to purchase one and see how it works.

Hi Scary Larry...

First of all, Hello and Welcome to the forum! Don't think we met yet...

For far less money you can buy a sweat shirt, cut the arms off and make a pair of them, and still have the sweatshirt.

I have a friend who builds and plays classical guitars, and he tried one of the sleeves, but says it makes his arm sweat when it's hot outside, and he prefers the sleeves from cotton sweatshirts, because they absorb moisture from the arm better, he sweats less, and they wash up better in the washer.

dchristo
07-24-2012, 07:29 PM
the virtuoso cleaner will get the sweat stain off, and if use the virtuoso polish, the next time you get a sweat stain on it, it will just wipe off

good for the neck too

Jason Paul
07-25-2012, 09:42 AM
I just cut the toe out of a sock. :)

A clean one.

Jason

MBE
07-25-2012, 10:03 AM
I just cut the toe out of a sock. :)

A clean one.

Jason

That's the trick my classical guitar teacher showed me years ago. Cheap and effective!

vicov
07-25-2012, 10:06 AM
I just cut the toe out of a sock. :)

A clean one.

Jason

Well that'll stop your foot from sweating. :)

dchristo
07-25-2012, 10:14 AM
well that'll stop your foot from sweating. :)

......lol.......

JCook1
07-25-2012, 10:30 AM
In the summer when it's hot and humid, and I wear tee shirts, I just drape my guitar polishing cloth over the place where my arm contacts it. It's big enough to drape over both front and back of the lower bout, and works fine. It's not that I sweat that much, but the feeling of bare arm skin on the guitar finish on a muggy day is not to my liking, but it also protects against sweat. Since the cloth is always in my guitar case, it's always handy.

Jack

outatune
07-25-2012, 11:38 AM
When I flat pick I need to move my arm as I go and when it sticks to the guitar top it is really a problem. I tried a towel on the guitar but it was a lot of trouble to put it on every time and reposition every time I stopped playing for a minute.

I went to WalMart and bought some womens socks that were a crew cut top and the tops were made from something thin that felt like a tee shirt. You can cut it any place you like. Put it on once and it's there til I get through playing. At $1 a pair I throw them away when they start looking bad and get a new one.

Doesn't look all that weird to wear these in public if playing out.

May not work for everyone, but it has for me so far.

David in TN

ScaryLarry
08-03-2012, 11:18 AM
Hi Larry J
Thanks for the response. Good to meet you. Your idea is very good. However I did get the sleeve and I can see how it could get hot. I have never had this problem until I purchased a new J-45 Custom, and I hated to see the slight dulling of the top front of it from my arm.

Larry

DesertTwang
08-03-2012, 11:39 AM
Arm rest? Polishing cloth? Pfft. A couple of weeks ago, at Camp Bluegrass, there was a guy in my class whose guitar had lost all its finish where the arm wraps around, and the area below the sound hole looked like it was scraped clean, too.

Guess who was the only one of us eliciting questions about his instrument (A 1959 Gibson) and compliments on owning "the coolest guitar in the room" from our instructor, Dan Miller, author of "Flatpicking Guitar Magazine?"

;)

Taylorplayer
08-03-2012, 12:27 PM
VIRTUOSO - that's the answer! :)

dawhealer
08-03-2012, 02:39 PM
Thanks for the replies. That john pearse armwrest is something to consider, I'm actually not sure what type of finish my guitar has. I have a martin dx1 when i go to their site it just says hand rubbed finish on the top. If the smudge doesn't ruin the sound or lifespan maybe i'll just leave it alone then.

Your DX-1 top is a satin finish I believe. Unless you want to buff it out to a higher gloss all over, I wouldn't use Virtuoso on it. I have a 000X-1 that I bought as a travel/campfire guitar and it has a place on the lower bout where my arm rests from playing it in short sleeved shirts.

Martin suggests cleaning their satin finishes with mild soap and a soft rag, nothing else. Works great. I also have a DM. Satin finish, same mojo on the top. Same thing for cleaning. I use Dr. Bronner's castille soap when it needs a little cleaning, and immediately dry it with a soft towel. Works great.

IPlay2
08-03-2012, 03:14 PM
Ah, don't worry about. Its called mojo. Makes you look cool and your guitar look cool. :D