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skiltrip
03-03-2009, 09:18 AM
What's everyone's thoughts on the Martin DM?

I'm considering picking up a Martin Dread, of course the D-28 is an object of desire, but that's not gonna happen. I was reading a few places that some folks have called the DM the poor man's D-28. I know titles like that should be taken with a grain of salt, but I just I just thought it was be helpful to hear some people's opinion of the DM. Thanks!

kip

Placida
03-03-2009, 09:26 AM
The Martin DM certainly is not a poor man's D-28; the D-28 is a rosewood dread, the DM is a laminated mahogany dread. Two totally different sounding guitars. Built different too.

That said, the DM is a great sounding, low-cost Martin that, for the money will make you proud. I've played a few at GC, and know people who own a DM. They love the guitar.

flip33
03-03-2009, 09:29 AM
Hello,

I really like the DM. Several of them have sounded good to me in the stores. I wanted to try a D-28, so I got one. The DM is still great in my book. It competes well with the Larrivee D-03. I have a Larrivee L-03 that sounds good to me. It has its own flavor and so does the DM. I would be happy switching my L-03 for a DM, except that my L-03 is fine.

You would do well with a DM :) It has a nice growl in the bass notes.

rmyAddison
03-03-2009, 09:59 AM
Personally, I am not a fan of laminates other than beater guitars. Just me, but I would get a used all wood Martin before buying a new laminate. Nothing sounds like wood but...wood. :)

skiltrip
03-03-2009, 10:03 AM
Personally, I am not a fan of laminates other than beater guitars. Just me, but I would get a used all wood Martin before buying a new laminate. Nothing sounds like wood but...wood. :)

I agree on the wood thing. That's why I got the 000-15.

What's Martin's lowest price all wood dread, other than the D-15?

jwsamuel
03-03-2009, 10:14 AM
What's Martin's lowest price all wood dread, other than the D-15?

Without mentioning prices, if you go to the Musician's Friend Web site and search on "Martin Custom D," "Martin DSM" or "Martin DSR" you'll see some good choices.

The Custom D is available in either rosewood or mahogany. The DSM is the same as the DM but with solid wood back and sides, and the DSR is the same as the DSM but with rosewood.

Also, check for the same guitars on music123.com or guitarcenter.com. They sometimes have different prices.

Here are links:

Custom D Mahogany (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Martin-D15-Custom-Spruce-and-Mahogany-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=514700)

Custom D Rosewood (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Martin-D15-Custom-Spruce-and-Rosewood-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=515888)

Martin DSM (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Martin-DSM-Solid-Top-Dreadnought-MahoganySpruce-Acoustic-Guitar-?sku=512098)

Martin DSR (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Martin-Dsr-Solid-Top-Dreadnought-RosewoodSpruce-Acoustic-Guitar-?sku=512097)

I just checked music123.com and the Custom D guitars are less money there than Musician's Friend, even though they are the same company.

Jim

skiltrip
03-03-2009, 10:29 AM
Without mentioning prices, if you go to the Musician's Friend Web site and search on "Martin Custom D," "Martin DSM" or "Martin DSR" you'll see some good choices.

The Custom D is available in either rosewood or mahogany. The DSM is the same as the DM but with solid wood back and sides, and the DSR is the same as the DSM but with rosewood.

Also, check for the same guitars on music123.com or guitarcenter.com. They sometimes have different prices.

Here are links:

Custom D Mahogany (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Martin-D15-Custom-Spruce-and-Mahogany-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=514700)

Custom D Rosewood (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Martin-D15-Custom-Spruce-and-Rosewood-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=515888)

Martin DSM (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Martin-DSM-Solid-Top-Dreadnought-MahoganySpruce-Acoustic-Guitar-?sku=512098)

Martin DSR (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Martin-Dsr-Solid-Top-Dreadnought-RosewoodSpruce-Acoustic-Guitar-?sku=512097)

I just checked music123.com and the Custom D guitars are less money there than Musician's Friend, even though they are the same company.

Jim

Thanks Jim. That opens things up a bit. The DSR and Custom D look especially good.

Eugenius
03-03-2009, 10:34 AM
Thanks Jim. That opens things up a bit. The DSR and Custom D look especially good.

Have you played any of these models yet? If not I would recommend trying out a few before buying if you can. There is FIERCE competition in this price range with plenty of great options.

skiltrip
03-03-2009, 10:37 AM
Have you played any of these models yet? If not I would recommend trying out a few before buying if you can. There is FIERCE competition in this price range with plenty of great options.

No, but of course I'll get out there and play first before I buy (If I am able, wasn't able to do this with my 000-15 because I could not find one in any music store, yet I've thrilled with that guitar).

I just want to know what I'm shooting at when I walk thru the doors of a music store.

If there are some really nicely priced competitive alternatives to the low-end yet solid wood martin dread range, please mention who and what they are! Thanks! ;)

kip

jwsamuel
03-03-2009, 10:41 AM
The guitars I listed are available at Guitar Center stores as well and can be played there.

Jim

HD18JBGuy
03-03-2009, 10:55 AM
I am a Martin guy, but try the Taylor 110. It has a solid wood top and sounds and plays great. It is in the same price range. Also, there are a few Epiphones in the same price range that are all wood and sound great as well.

If you are really woodin' (pun intended) for a Martin, I agree with everyone above and say look for an all wood used Martin. You can find them on Ebay, but you usually strike a better deal by finding one on your local Craigslist.

I will say, a Martin DM is a nice sounding, affordable guitar, but there are better options to be had for the same price range.

Eugenius
03-03-2009, 11:05 AM
No, but of course I'll get out there and play first before I buy (If I am able, wasn't able to do this with my 000-15 because I could not find one in any music store, yet I've thrilled with that guitar).

I just want to know what I'm shooting at when I walk thru the doors of a music store.

If there are some really nicely priced competitive alternatives to the low-end yet solid wood martin dread range, please mention who and what they are! Thanks! ;)

kip

Ok in that same price range give or take a few hundred:

-Epiphone Masterbilts
-Larrivee 03 Series
-Used Martin's
-Stanford (not possible to get at this point I don't think)
-Blueridge
-Recording King
-Used Taylor's
-Eastman
-Guild GAD
-Higher end Seagull's
-Yamaha L Series

Most of these all all solid woods, nicely appointed for the same price. Lots of good options.

skiltrip
03-03-2009, 11:10 AM
Ok in that same price range give or take a few hundred:

-Epiphone Masterbilts
-Larrivee 03 Series
-Used Martin's
-Stanford (not possible to get at this point I don't think)
-Blueridge
-Recording King
-Used Taylor's
-Eastman
-Guild GAD
-Higher end Seagull's
-Yamaha L Series

Most of these all all solid woods, nicely appointed for the same price. Lots of good options.

I was looking at the Recording Kings on Trinity's site. Sparked my curiousity. I also emailed Jim about them. The RD-27 caught my eye. Seems like a great price or all solid wood if they actually play and sound nice.

Eugenius
03-03-2009, 11:40 AM
I was looking at the Recording Kings on Trinity's site. Sparked my curiousity. I also emailed Jim about them. The RD-27 caught my eye. Seems like a great price or all solid wood if they actually play and sound nice.

A lot of them are Martin clones, most have different necks, nuts, detailing, etc so if you can play a large variety of these you'll definitely find something you really like.

BHulkster
03-03-2009, 11:43 AM
I agree on the wood thing. That's why I got the 000-15.

What's Martin's lowest price all wood dread, other than the D-15?

The Custom D (Rosewood back/sides, or Mahogany back/sides) or the DSR with solid rosewood back/sides - which I have :)

fchas
03-03-2009, 11:49 AM
I was looking at the Recording Kings on Trinity's site. Sparked my curiousity. I also emailed Jim about them. The RD-27 caught my eye. Seems like a great price or all solid wood if they actually play and sound nice.

For what its worth...I have an RD 27 nice guitar solid englemen top and rosewood sides......neck is 1 ll/l6 kinda V but not uncomfortable at all...that being said Ive also had a Martin DM was a great tuff guitar....quite different than my solid rosewood RK tho......The RK is a great low budget prewar dread, not a martin but definitely worth the money. frank

Cibby
03-03-2009, 04:00 PM
"I was looking at the Recording Kings on Trinity's site. Sparked my curiousity. I also emailed Jim about them. The RD-27 caught my eye. Seems like a great price or all solid wood if they actually play and sound nice."

Stick with the DM it is a poor mans D-18 not 28..I have both now but the DM came years before..Outplays the recording king and quality of work is miles apart....The DM comes with medium SP Martin strings and booms from the bass..Don't worry about the laminate back and sides it still sounds like a good Martin..and don't get caught up in "what guitar I have" and that other one is no good most of it is just B.S. you'll love the DM and get years of great playing out of it...cibby

vti814ce
03-03-2009, 04:06 PM
I agree on the wood thing. That's why I got the 000-15.

What's Martin's lowest price all wood dread, other than the D-15?

Like the others have said, Go to Musicians Friend, those Martin Custom Dreadnaughts, the ones made out of Spruce and RW are really nice. Ive played two of them, they do sound like a D-28. All Really nice dreads for the Martin lover who wants to spend a little less. :up:

Sammy

HHP
03-03-2009, 04:24 PM
The DM's and DR's I've tried would be more of "a man's poor D-28". If you want Martin, put in a few extra bucks and get a 15 or 16 series new or used. Maybe locate a used D-1 or D-2. Whatever you spend extra will mostly come back if your sell it or trade it down the road and you'll have a better instrument in the meantime.

skiltrip
03-04-2009, 07:06 AM
The DM's and DR's I've tried would be more of "a man's poor D-28". If you want Martin, put in a few extra bucks and get a 15 or 16 series new or used. Maybe locate a used D-1 or D-2. Whatever you spend extra will mostly come back if your sell it or trade it down the road and you'll have a better instrument in the meantime.

I already have a 15 series. I got the GAS man, don't you understand?! (crazed look).:D

stratokatsu
03-04-2009, 07:21 AM
I have a DM. It isn't my first one, but hopefully I'll have the sense to keep it and it will be my last. Among Martin guitars, I have played many with higher price tags and with tone OTHER people would say is "better"... but I keep coming back to the DM because it has a certain tone I like... not someone else likes... ME!

Trust your ears. If you like the sound of the DM, don't buy some guitar you don't like as much just because of solid woods or resale value.

As for comparing it to a bunch of other guitars, remember one thing. The DM is made in America. Many of the others, regardless that they are solid wood, are made overseas. On that basis alone, the resale value issue has some cracks in its reasoning.

JimBetts
03-04-2009, 01:37 PM
The price point of a used D1 or D2, if found, isn't that much more than a Custom D or DSM is it?

rlouie
03-04-2009, 02:50 PM
I've got a DM and it's a great sounding guitar and not just for the money, IT"S A GREAT SOUNDING GUITAR!!!!!!!!! you got folks everywhere that'll tell you that laminates can't sound as good as solid wood guitars. Don't listen to anyone or anything but your ears...................try a DM, my guess is you won't put it down .................

shawlie
03-04-2009, 03:18 PM
I've had a DM for around 8 years now and always thought it sounded great. I'd been used to laminate b/s, and by far, it was the nicest sounding laminate I ever owned.

If you like it, and it's something you can afford, it's a nice guitar in my opinion.

But it is a pretty expensive laminate, maybe. Not long ago, I bought a Larrivee om-03, my first solid wood guitar. Different bodies, so it's not really fair to compair them. The price was nearly the same (my DM was slightly over-priced in the local shop), and for the money, I like my Larrivee better. If you can (like has been mentioned), try a 03 Larrivee dread, too.

I'll never part with my DM, but it does get played less now I have a Larrivee. But it's my personal taste - when it was my only "good" guitar, I played quite contentedly on my DM.