New Dreads, Is it just me or............

[Ian Anderson]

OK, I have been playing my three new revoiced dreads for a few days and was wondering if you folks are having the same impressions?

Yes they ARE louder. But I also have the impression that it takes very little effort to drive the top to loudly. Which brings a new challenge of trying to play quiet parts. I used to be able to play my Taylor dreads from soft to as hard as my right hand could hit it and not break the sound down, so there was a large difference in right hand attack between loud and quiet.

Comparatively speaking a soft strum is now louder and a real hard strum like I used to do on the old deads overdrives the top. It’s just one of those small nuances one has to get used to. I general you have to play with a softer right hand, which is good, I think. I do love the sound of the new ones! What do you think?

[buddiesorg]

I haven't really heard much difference that couldn't be explained by just being different wood sets. I like the guitars, but I'd think I'd like them with the old bracing as well ... but I love them with the new bracing, for sure.

[leftydude]

I really like the new 510 and think its an improvement over the pre-voiced ones. Since I've only been able to play a couple rightys upside down, (I'm actually starting to learn a couple cool things that way) I havent really been able to test drive one well enough to see if I overdrive the top.

[meridian]

Ian, I haven't noticed the overdrive problem. Although strumming without a pick I find I can overdrive the bass strings by hitting them too hard. With a pick I haven't found this to be true. (Don't have that guitar with me in Florida, so I have to wait till I'm back in NY to test it).

I only have one other Taylor dread (310-MCE) and it is certainly quite different from my 810-LTD. But I have just been falling in love with the 810-LTD for its remarkable versatility and range.

[JW]

I cant really see the big deal in these. When I play either the new or old they both suck. Hmmmmm wonder why that is? :roll: :roll: :roll: JW

[Ian Anderson]

Originally posted by meridian
Ian, I haven't noticed the overdrive problem. Although strumming without a pick I find I can overdrive the bass strings by hitting them too hard. With a pick I haven't found this to be true. (Don't have that guitar with me in Florida, so I have to wait till I'm back in NY to test it).

I only have one other Taylor dread (310-MCE) and it is certainly quite different from my 810-LTD. But I have just been falling in love with the 810-LTD for its remarkable versatility and range.

Hope you having a great time in Florida. I really like the new dread, they are very responsive, aren’t they? I really like the Mahogany and the Cocobolo LTD’s. They are different even when compared to the modified bracing in the 810WMB's.

[Ian Anderson]

BTW do all the 810LTD's have glossed headstocks?

[marklyn]

I have the 2002 710 LTD and I think it's pretty much impossible to overdrive the top. That could be due to the Sitka, perhaps. I've beat on it pretty regularly and it mostly just asks for more. Someone who played it at the SoCal get together said "This thing really wants to be played loud."

[meridian]

Originally posted by Ian Anderson
BTW do all the 810LTD's have glossed headstocks?

I thought that they put gloss cocobolo HS overlays as standard, but I ordered gloss ebony for mine. What do your have?

Did you see my silly post about forum handle meanings where mine was "ME - RID - IAN" ?? Just being silly, of course, I would never be rid of you!:)

Had a great time in Florida with my family. Back in the rainy Big Apple tonight!

[Ian Anderson]

Originally posted by meridian


I thought that they put gloss cocobolo HS overlays as standard, but I ordered gloss ebony for mine. What do your have?

Did you see my silly post about forum handle meanings where mine was "ME - RID - IAN" ?? Just being silly, of course, I would never be rid of you!:)

Had a great time in Florida with my family. Back in the rainy Big Apple tonight!

Joe I saw the post, said somthing about watch out, right? So I replied somthing like this..............

Joe, are you going to play Bubuloo and come over here and El Cabong me? :roll: Looks like we got sniped, what for?

Two of the LTD's got gloss headstocks, the other got satin. :eek:

[meridian]

Originally posted by Ian Anderson
Joe I saw the post, said somthing about watch out, right? So I replied somthing like this..............

Joe, are you going to play Bubuloo and come over here and El Cabong me? :roll: Looks like we got sniped, what for?

to which I replied (and the posts are still there, so we didn't get sniped (snipped?).

Originally posted by meridian


"I'LLLLLL do the THINNIN' around here!!"

El Cabong!!! Gosh, I'd forgotten where Pete Townshend got his inspiration!

Mebbe I change my handle to "QweeksDraw"

But I'd use YOUR LTDs, of course!:lol:

Ian, you're taller than me, so you should play QuickDraw McGraw and I'll be Babaloo!:roll:

[meridian]

Geez, all this clowning around and I forgot to answer your question!

The 810-LTD is different from my other Taylors and yes, it is certainly louder. But I also think it has a WIDER dynamic range (soft to loud) so I don't find it really getting too loud with too littlle effort I don't think -- gosh I phrased that poorly.

Here's the thing. I have a nice little group of super Taylor guitars. But I will get bored with the sound of the other Taylor 6s and put them away after playing for an hour. And then I'll pull out the 810-LTD and play and play and play and never get bored -- my fingers give out first!

The 810-LTD has a tonality that is certainly not "warm" but it is ALWAYS compelling (to me).

Go figure.

[jeffrey]

I would definately classify my 810 as 'warm'. :)

I find the coco/redwood combo can produce very complex tones if you give it the chance to. If you just beat on it all the time, it's not going to give you a very wide range of tonality (but this is true for any guitar).

I don't find it any harder to play soft, I just find it easier to get really loud. :)

[Ian Anderson]

Originally posted by meridian

to which I replied (and the posts are still there, so we didn't get sniped (snipped?).

Ian, you're taller than me, so you should play QuickDraw McGraw and I'll be Babaloo!:roll:

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Originally posted by meridian


"I'LLLLLL do the THINNIN' around here!!"

El Cabong!!! Gosh, I'd forgotten where Pete Townshend got his inspiration!

Mebbe I change my handle to "QweeksDraw"

But I'd use YOUR LTDs, of course!
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OK Bubaloo. I can't see the original posts, oh well. So that’s where Pete Townshend got it...... it makes so much sense! :roll:

[meridian]

Originally posted by Ian Anderson
OK Bubaloo. I can't see the original posts, oh well. So that’s where Pete Townshend got it...... it makes so much sense! :roll:

Here's the thread FWIW (not much!)

http://www.taylorguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14636

:)

[Ian Anderson]

Originally posted by meridian

Here's the thread FWIW (not much!)

Bubaloo, that’s were it went, huh :roll: :roll:
Originally posted by Jeffery

I would definitely classify my 810 as 'warm'.

I find the coco/redwood combo can produce very complex tones if you give it the chance to. If you just beat on it all the time, it's not going to give you a very wide range of tonality (but this is true for any guitar).

I don't find it any harder to play soft, I just find it easier to get really loud.



Agreed! I've had some time to get to know these things and I'm quite amazed at the sound. They are sure fun.

Jeffrey good to here from you again. You long haired hippie :roll: :roll: I agree the Coco's ARE very warm especially since it's such a dense heavy hardwood. I heard your guitar though the new mic you sound fantastic! How do you think the redwood coco compares to the sitka?

I borrowed a digital camera and took a bunch of photo's. The owner left the transfer cable on New Years at a friends house and it still might be a bit before I can post them. Soon I hope.

[jeffrey]

Originally posted by Ian Anderson
Jeffrey good to here from you again. You long haired hippie :roll: :roll: I agree the Coco's ARE very warm especially since it's such a dense heavy hardwood. I heard your guitar though the new mic you sound fantastic! How do you think the redwood coco compares to the sitka?

Hippie?! I resemble that remark. :D

Compared to Sitka, hrm. Honestly, I haven't played a Coco/Sitka, so my opinion on that may not be truly accurate. I like Sitka, but for my tastes, I find it's more suited for strumming. I may be completely wrong about this, but it just seems, in my experience, to work best for that.

Spruce in general for me is a bit to bright/snappy at times. I guess because I do so much single string stuff and don't have much of a light touch, the denser woods seem to agree with me more. :)

It's not about which is better I don't think, it's more about what suits your style imo.:D

[Markr]

The new Dreads just sound boomier and boxier to me.

[jb1]

Wait 'til you try the NEW DREDII, soon to be released from Taylor. They did a whole new bracing concept, and wowie, what a wonderful sound. I played a new 710 DredII this week, and am gonna have to get one soon.....see if you can't get your hands on one and check out the difference.

[Ian Anderson]

Originally posted by jb1
Wait 'til you try the NEW DREDII, soon to be released from Taylor. They did a whole new bracing concept, and wowie, what a wonderful sound. I played a new 710 DredII this week, and am gonna have to get one soon.....see if you can't get your hands on one and check out the difference.

jb1 thats the one I was refering to......... I already have three of them. Yes and they DO sound amazing!

[jb1]

Ian, I'm wondering how you could already have 3 of them, as I thought they were just now shipping them from the factory. You have some inside connection or something? Maybe I just didn't know that the DredII's were already out. I mean I've tried one, but as I said, I thought they were barely even finished yet. Hmm. What do you know that I don't? I'll have to check my resources. Geez, I thought I was first! Hehee. :eek:

[LarryH in Texas]

jb1 --

Taylor began building the new, re-braced, re-voiced dreads back in September or October of last year. There are threads discussing the actual "begin date" elsewhere on the forum.

You may be thinking of the new electronics, which they are starting to build, this month.

[jb1]

Oooooooh I see now, well thanks Larry, now I know. I didn't research the old threads on the new dreds, as I'm new here and don't know my way around yet. I don't mean to make you re-invent the wheel! :) Muchas gracias.