When May Be The Next TaylorStock?

[notcat2]

Well, I hate I missed the last one, but I'm planning on being there for next years. I know a large event like you had requires quite a bit of advanced planning in order to get all your ducks in a row. So............

When will the 2k3 event start taking shape ? I've already got a "go" from the wife. She didn't even blink an eye when I told her I could customize my own guitar at the factory. I can't hardly wait.

Just thought I'd ask,

thanks

nc2 :)

[C C]

This was a one time event. As far as I know there are no plans for another, but we can always hope.

[jeffrey]

There's no 2k3 event planned at all. As it sits now, it was the one and only.

Hopefully they'll do another one. I'd go again in a heartbeat. :)

[Steve_in_Tucson]

Since it was very successful (according to the reports -- I joined the forum after it was over) I would suspect they will do it again. There was some reports that they had used up all their best wood and it will take 10 years to replenish it. I think this is baloney. They came out with the fall limiteds this year (where did they get that wood from). If Johnny Cash walked into Taylor and said he wanted a custom guitar do you think they would be able to find some 'special wood' for him? I think so too.

There are no announced plans to do it again. There have been no announced plans NOT to do it again.

I'd say there is a 50-50 chance (either they will or they won't).

And if they do or don't it was a nice opportunity for those who went. An EXPENSIVE opportunity but a nice one.

[SonShine]

If you live fairly close by, it wasn't that expensive. Registration was reasonable and plane flights are affordable.

Oh wait, there was the small matter of that guitar I ordered....:roll:

[notcat2]

Originally posted by C C
This was a one time event. As far as I know there are no plans for another, but we can always hope.

I find it hard to believe that this forum which has 2800+ members had only thought of doing this "one time". After all "TaylorStock" has it's own posting catagory on this forum. That's alot of attention put on a once every few years event.

Not to put any pressure on any future organizers but over at the UMGF they've set the dates for their 2nd Annual Nazerath, Pennsylvania trek. Chris Martin himself is also involved in festivities. Their forum membership numbers rival this one (within 50 people) and may surpass it after the Christmas gift (martins) giving rush is over.

Alright, Whose in charge?

thanks,

nc2

[TimB]

Originally posted by notcat2
I find it hard to believe that this forum which has 2800+ members had only thought of doing this "one time". Yeah, we're pretty dumb that way. :ha:

-=Tim=-

[jeffrey]

Originally posted by Steve_in_Tucson
There was some reports that they had used up all their best wood and it will take 10 years to replenish it. I think this is baloney. They came out with the fall limiteds this year (where did they get that wood from).

You obviously haven't compared the woods on the Fall LTD's to the woods on the TS guitars. There is no comparison, they are light years apart IMO.

[jeffrey]

Originally posted by notcat2


I find it hard to believe that this forum which has 2800+ members had only thought of doing this "one time". After all "TaylorStock" has it's own posting catagory on this forum. That's alot of attention put on a once every few years event.

Not to put any pressure on any future organizers but over at the UMGF they've set the dates for their 2nd Annual Nazerath, Pennsylvania trek. Chris Martin himself is also involved in festivities. Their forum membership numbers rival this one (within 50 people) and may surpass it after the Christmas gift (martins) giving rush is over.

Alright, Whose in charge?

thanks,

nc2

Bob Taylor's in charge last time I checked.

And for the record, forum attendance has nothing to do with whether or not they'll have another one. Only 60 or so people attended, of which 40 or so were actual forum members (the rest were spouses, children etc). Many people on this forum had the chance to go and did.

There was more than 60 people then and there's more than 60 now. It still doesn't mean it's ever going to happen again.

If you want to petition someone, contact Taylor. Having a fit about it here is barking up the wrong tree. If I know JR, he'd start planning it tomorrow if they'd let him, but it's not his call. It's up to Mr. Taylor himself.

[J.R. Rogers]

TaylorStock 2003? Only a rumor. Jeffrey covered it pretty well. I'd add that we were guests invited by Taylor. We can't simply invite ourselves into their home. That said, they know exactly how we feel about it and if/when they're ready to invite us again, I'll work with them to make it happen. I promise. I'm in frequent communication with people at the factory.

Why not organize your own local get-together? There have been many great "Taylor Forum events" aside from TaylorStock.

JR

[Steve314]

Originally posted by notcat2
I find it hard to believe that this forum which has 2800+ members had only thought of doing this "one time". After all "TaylorStock" has it's own posting catagory on this forum. That's alot of attention put on a once every few years event

If it was left entirely up to us, I have no doubt that it would be, at the minimum, an annual event. However, it's not up to us. Taylor Guitars had to agree to host us, and they went tremendously out of their way to do so.

Not to put any pressure on any future organizers but over at the UMGF they've set the dates for their 2nd Annual Nazerath, Pennsylvania trek. Chris Martin himself is also involved in festivities. Their forum membership numbers rival this one (within 50 people) and may surpass it after the Christmas gift (martins) giving rush is over

I read about the UMGF gathering in Nazareth and, while I'm sure it was fun, I don't know that you can compare the two events. Bob Taylor personally assisted attendees in selecting some incredible woods for custom guitars. Did Martin offer anything like that? Red carpet tours were given, seminars were held, entertainment, and more food than you could shake a truss rod at.

Make no mistake, I know more than a few people here who would leap at the chance to attend the bext Taylorstock. Unfortunately, the final decision for that rests with Taylor Guitars, not the TGF...

Steve

[Steve314]

Originally posted by Steve_in_Tucson
There was some reports that they had used up all their best wood and it will take 10 years to replenish it. I think this is baloney. They came out with the fall limiteds this year (where did they get that wood from)

The woods used for the Taylorstock Editions simply can't be compared to the woods used for the LTD's. "Master Grade" was the phrase of the day on wood-selection day. The LTD's, as nice as they are, are NOT made from Master Grade stock...

There are no announced plans to do it again. There have been no announced plans NOT to do it again

This is a good point. However, the event is only 4-1/2 months past. Any discussion, at this point, I think would be a tad premature, especially considering that Taylor is gearing up for NAMM, and they have bigger things on their plate right now...

And if they do or don't it was a nice opportunity for those who went. An EXPENSIVE opportunity but a nice one.

Not necessarily. Ordering a Taylorstock guitar wasn't mandatory, and it certainly wasn't the reason I went; I didn't order one (granted, I'm kicking myself in the butt for not doing so). I went to meet some of the people who I'd been conversing with for the previous 9 months, to attend the seminars, and to hear some great performances by those in attendance. With the exception of gas money, attending Taylorstock didn't cost me a dime...

Steve

[notcat2]

Alright, So it's up to Taylor to invite the Forum. I'll let it go at that and say your right, maybe a one time event. Worst case scenario Taylor was disappointed with a small turn out and only about $25,000 worth of guitars sold. But with that said I guess I'll search the old posts and find the approx. date that Taylor extended the invite.

I do think it will happen again, Taylor prides itself on being a small family-like-atmosphere business and probably has no problem in keeping their most loyal of all clientel (this forum's most devoted members) happy. With 2800 members you'd think it would be no problem getting 60 to show up at a special function as this. I would think about 10% of the total members visit this forum on a weekly basis. Thats about 250 people. I personally have been a member for a while and when I have a question on anything related I visit and read. Sometimes really useful info too , especially the past posts on the "cocobolo cracks". I personally was thinking of buying a used cocobolo guitar but now realize I should try and get a Lifetime warranty just in case a crack devoloped down the road. (Sorry Ryan, yours was a ce anyway).

I do understand the costs involved for most people and the situation with today's economy, etc. I myself travel cheap (airline employee) so it's more to spend on a guitar once I get there. So I'm still holding off on that nice custom 810c, at least for six months, just in case I do have the chance to get an up-close experience on the build process. Until then, I'll drop Taylor a email and hope for a positive response.

Happy Holidays,

nc2:)

[Mike A.]

Excellent response notcat2. Very well put. Please excuse our fellow TGF bretheren, they may sound a bit harsh, but they do not mean to be so short. I know where you're coming from and I know where they're coming from.

The main problem the first time, believe it or not, was getting enough people to go. J.R. put the lid at 100 people total. We felt that this was a "do-able" number for Taylor to host and for us to coordinate. We ended up with 60. This was at a time where the TGF membership was about 2100 people. There are a lot of us here that are parts of other large groups and we know from experience that with such an event, if you get 10% participation, you're rockin' like Dokken. We ended up with under 5%, go figure.

Also, up until we set foot on Taylor's parcels of land, there were only about 8 or 9 people who were planning on buying a guitar there, REALLY! After seeing the spread, talking with Uncle Bob, and taking in the weight of such an event and how it just MIGHT not ever happen again, that 8 or 9 turned into 51 guitars(I think was the last count)!

I'm on your side, but quietly since I went to TS. I would LOVE to go again!!! But I'm going to wait for the word from Taylor. Jonathon Forstot(sp?) really went way, way out of his way to set up a huge, awesome event. He was also kind of behind the scenes the whole weekend making sure things went as planned. A great asset to the company. Sure, Taylor made some money that weekend, but that's not why they did it, that not where they got their pleasure. That company loves to make people, namely their customers, very happy. I see TS as a HUGE "thank you" from Taylor to us, some of the most devoted Taylor nutcases out there:)!

Keep this in mind, though. With all this talk about the "next Taylorstock", it probably won't be the same as the first for many reasons, the least of which would be the wood selecting time which went WAY too long(I still kind of feel bad about that). That's assuming they let us choose wood again(I wouldn't count on it). Also, I wouldn't be surprised if we were barely able to get 100 people to go. Again, it comes down logistics. Not everybody can go all on one particular weekend. Not everybody can afford the travel expenses. The list goes on, but you get my point. It's unfortunate, but it happens.

But, if in the next few years, they want to host another shindig at their place, on our dime, fine by me!!! I can't say enough about that event, that company, those employees, and their boss. A real class act. I love watching the DVD, all those memories come racing back.........

-Mike A.

[Steve314]

Originally posted by notcat2
Worst case scenario Taylor was disappointed with a small turn out and only about $25,000 worth of guitars sold.

I think Taylor was extremely happy with the turn out. And, not that it's important, but I can assure you, the dollar amount was far more than twenty-five large...

Steve

[jeffrey]

Originally posted by notcat2
Worst case scenario Taylor was disappointed with a small turn out and only about $25,000 worth of guitars sold.

It was a lot more than $25k and, if anything, Taylor took a loss IMO. The woods that they gave us at the discounts they provided were ridiculous.

I have a hard time believing there was any monetary profit in this event.

[J.R. Rogers]

Originally posted by jeffrey
I have a hard time believing there was any monetary profit in this event.

Agreed. They did sell a lot of guitars, but every one of them were custom-shop models and had to be walked through production. Taylor buys so much wood in bulk, I doubt that they lost any money there, but definitely in man-time - these guitars cost more to build than a typical guitar going through production. We really stretched the production crew with all the custom options, but I think it was a good exercise for them. As far as the wood goes, I agree - I think we got the best of the best.

JR

[rsimper]

I say we just sit back, see what happens, and be grateful for whatever we get (and for what we have already been given)

I know thats what I'm going to do.

:)

[jeffrey]

Originally posted by rsimper
I say we just sit back, see what happens, and be grateful for whatever we get.

I know thats what I'm going to do.

:)

Indeed. :)

[Steve314]

Originally posted by rsimper
I say we just sit back, see what happens, and be grateful for whatever we get (and for what we have already been given)

I know thats what I'm going to do.

:)

Well, sure... but droppin' the occasional hint now and again never hurts!

Steve

[notcat2]

Okay, so I did the search and found JR made an "Offical Registration" post on Feb. 6, that means the wheels must have least started turning in Jan. So I guess within a couple of months things will be a little clearer.

I also see that Taylor is shutdown for the holidays so no emails are being handled now. I'll wait until late Feb. before I personally attempt a TaylorStock plea.

Happy Holidays,

nc2

[rsimper]

Originally posted by notcat2


I also see that Taylor is shutdown for the holidays so no emails are being handled now. I'll wait until late Feb. before I personally attempt a TaylorStock plea.

Happy Holidays,

nc2

Please reconsider this idea. I'm certain that they are aware that we all would love another oppurtunity to visit them. J.R. asks that we allow him to interact with Taylor on behalf of the forum, and I think it is a fair request for him to make that nobody try to circumvent his official position.

Rest assured, J.R. knows how much we would all like to do it again, (He probably wants to more than most of us!) so please leave it up to him to deal with Taylor on anything that may or may not happen sometime down the road.

[NdaBoonies]

I really enjoy the enthusiasm that new members bring to the TGF... kinda breaks the monotony of the "same old same old" at times... it's a g-o-o-d thing!

Not trying to repress or suppress here, BUT...

Just to ensure that new members are aware of the "workings", it might not be a bad idea to clarify the Taylor Guitar Forum (TGF) "relationship" - the one that doesn't "officially" exist - either in the "Two Simple Rules" or in the FAQ section that Meridian is compiling. Bottom line - no TGF member should contact Taylor Guitars directly, and represent that contact as being for, or on behalf of, the TGF. That type of contact is the sole right and responsibility of the TGF Administrator, J.R. Rogers.

As Steve314 alluded, any "hints" that might be dropped by way of a post or a complete thread WILL be picked up by the folks at Taylor Guitars, as "some" of those folks actually stop by here every so often!

[VFran]

Originally posted by rsimper


Please reconsider this idea. I'm certain that they are aware that we all would love another oppurtunity to visit them. J.R. asks that we allow him to interact with Taylor on behalf of the forum, and I think it is a fair request for him to make that nobody try to circumvent his official position.



Ditto Ryan's thoughts. I think we would all love the opportunity for an invitation to TS Part Deux but we should respect J.R.'s relationship with Taylor and some of the things he had to go through to make the first TS a reality. If there is a possibility of TS2, then I'm sure J.R. will be all over it and be working hard to make it happen. In the meantime, we should sit back and let things happen naturally. I'm sure the Company knows how much we enjoyed the first TS.

Just my opinion nc2 and welcome to the forum. Have a great holiday. :)

[Steve_in_Tucson]

... and being rather slow I finally figured out why it was called "Taylor Stock". Sort of a play on "Woodstock". It was like a unique musical thing-a-ma-jig. OK that only took me about 4 months to figure it out but I'm with it now.

[notcat2]

Originally posted by rsimper


Please reconsider this idea. I'm certain that they are aware that we all would love another oppurtunity to visit them. J.R. asks that we allow him to interact with Taylor on behalf of the forum, and I think it is a fair request for him to make that nobody try to circumvent his official position.

Rest assured, J.R. knows how much we would all like to do it again, (He probably wants to more than most of us!) so please leave it up to him to deal with Taylor on anything that may or may not happen sometime down the road.

Duly Noted. I've seen a member with the user name of Bob Taylor on the other sections of the forum, he probably makes it to this section as well. I'll just sit back and wait.....I'm a patient man.


Happy Holidays,

nc2

[JamBermuda]

Originally posted by Steve_in_Tucson
... and being rather slow I finally figured out why it was called "Taylor Stock". Sort of a play on "Woodstock". It was like a unique musical thing-a-ma-jig. OK that only took me about 4 months to figure it out but I'm with it now.

Oh no!!

:roll:

[rsimper]

Originally posted by Steve_in_Tucson
... and being rather slow I finally figured out why it was called "Taylor Stock". Sort of a play on "Woodstock". It was like a unique musical thing-a-ma-jig. OK that only took me about 4 months to figure it out but I'm with it now.

Wow.

:D

[flig_chris]

Originally posted by Steve_in_Tucson
... and being rather slow I finally figured out why it was called "Taylor Stock". Sort of a play on "Woodstock". It was like a unique musical thing-a-ma-jig. OK that only took me about 4 months to figure it out but I'm with it now.

Well...I'm slower than you are! I hadn't even thought of the play on Woodstock until your post! Thanks for enlightenment.

Chris

[rsimper]

Originally posted by flig_chris


Well...I'm slower than you are! I hadn't even thought of the play on Woodstock until your post! Thanks for enlightenment.

Chris

Double Wow.


:roll: